Posted on 08/08/2022 9:11:46 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
Barcelona (AFP) – With Europe gripped by successive heatwaves, climate-change deniers are spreading scepticism by publishing data on social media on extreme temperatures allegedly recorded decades ago to imply scientists are exaggerating global warming.
But experts say the figures cited from the past are often incorrect or taken out of context -- and even if accurate do not change the fact that heatwaves are becoming more frequent and intense.
The posts typically include heat records from almanacs or newspaper reports from the past, arguing that they are similar to the record highs set during this year's heatwaves in Europe.
Climate scientists overwhelmingly agree that carbon emissions from humans burning fossil fuels are heating the planet, raising the risk, length and severity of heatwaves and other extreme weather events.
"These figures of high temperatures (in the past) do not discredit the existence of climate change," said Jose Luis Garcia, a climate change expert at Greenpeace in Spain.
"They are unrelated. One thing is one-off temperature data and another very different thing is the tendency towards an increase in the average temperature."
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In graduate school I took advanced statistics courses. One of the methods applies to temperature, but I have never seen it used. Create a data base of temperatures for a century or more. Add the first ten years together and divide by ten. That gives the first number for a graph. Next drop the first number and pick up the eleventh. Add those together and divide by ten for the second number on the graph. Repeat for the century to see if there is a trend.
It’s very simple. One hundred degrees Fahrenheit/38º C in 1922 wasn’t really the same as in 2022. Thermometers weren’t digital so they were often misread. And people weren’t as smart then either. And even though photographs show high tides at exactly the same place 100 years ago, they aren’t the same either. How dare people sow doubt—using historic facts to dispute theories.
Meanwhile, trust the climate oligarchs to find private profit in public policy.
When in doubt, run in circles scream and shout.
The average daily temperature is where the warming is seen, not in the recorded daily highs. The only reliable warming trend is for the daily lows, especially at high northern latitudes; ie, the nights in the arctic are gradually getting slightly less frigid.
All the rest is pretty much armwaving.
Climate change has been around for millions of years. How do these climate hoax frauds explain the earth going from tropical climates, to ice ages, then change its climate again? It’s a cyclical thing, and not man-made. I’m glad I’m on the tail-end of my life, and won’t have to see my tax dollars being wasted much longer on horse$hit like this.
We don’t deny climate; we deny that it is affected by or can be affected by human actions.
Climate deniers are using actual data? That has to be racist or white supremacist or something.
Future generations will compare the global warming hysteria to primitive tribes being terrified of eclipses.
Geez, whoever saw summer get hot??
If it werent for climate change, Chicago would still be under a mile of ice.
The other thing is every day when you watch the weather guessers on the tv set you occasionally see the "record temperature" as 80, 90 or more years ago. Don't look at that! They know you will think - hey, what caused all these high temperatures 90 years ago when there were billions of less people and less carbon output.
The very term "CLIMATE CHANGE" is on purpose. If you dispute anything the hoaxers are spinning in their web of lies you then become a "Climate Change Denier". Everyone on the earth knows that the climate changes by the second every day! Never deny climate change. Admit that the climate changes because it does. But always confront the hoaxsters with their manipulated data sets and origins of CO2.
This fits me perfectly. They talk about how the temps are increasing because of global warming, and I point out that according to the records, the highest temp for this day was (something like 1953). They don’t like to hear that. They like to point out that the temps have been increasing steadily. I point out that in some cases the record LOW for this day was AFTER the record high.
They just don’t like that their talking points are so easily refuted by the FACTS.
“In other words, they use actual reality to sow doubt on a pop science theory?”
In that case, the old heat records will just be deleted from online access and then replaced with more correct heat records. Those old heat records are inconsistent with the SCIENCE. So they must be wrong.
How dare them user actual data!!! Heretics!
This August is the hottest August on record....so is September.
These climate kooks are worse than the covid bunch. Now they complain we deniers are using past data to support our contention there is no warming. However these scientific paragons of virtue will in turn: use past data, omit past data, create data out of thin air and then tell us we are deniers and hate science. It seems unless you are a congenital liar you are not fit to be a scientist anymore...
When has the climate NOT changed ?????
Ever notice how on the news we are constantly breaking temperature records ???? They cleverly do this by using data from individual cities instead of state records. In NJ Therefore they can claim “today” was a record hot temperature in say Newark NJ when it was not a record for much of the rest of the state. Most of the public just hears that it was a heat record day without understanding that it was only one or two cities that broke a record not the entire region.
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