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Climate deniers use past heat records to sow doubt online
France24 ^ | August 8, 2022

Posted on 08/08/2022 9:11:46 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Barcelona (AFP) – With Europe gripped by successive heatwaves, climate-change deniers are spreading scepticism by publishing data on social media on extreme temperatures allegedly recorded decades ago to imply scientists are exaggerating global warming.

But experts say the figures cited from the past are often incorrect or taken out of context -- and even if accurate do not change the fact that heatwaves are becoming more frequent and intense.

The posts typically include heat records from almanacs or newspaper reports from the past, arguing that they are similar to the record highs set during this year's heatwaves in Europe.

Climate scientists overwhelmingly agree that carbon emissions from humans burning fossil fuels are heating the planet, raising the risk, length and severity of heatwaves and other extreme weather events.

"These figures of high temperatures (in the past) do not discredit the existence of climate change," said Jose Luis Garcia, a climate change expert at Greenpeace in Spain.

"They are unrelated. One thing is one-off temperature data and another very different thing is the tendency towards an increase in the average temperature."

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KEYWORDS: chat; globalwarming; hoax; journalism; media; press; propaganda; socialism
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To: DesertRhino; Oldeconomybuyer

In graduate school I took advanced statistics courses. One of the methods applies to temperature, but I have never seen it used. Create a data base of temperatures for a century or more. Add the first ten years together and divide by ten. That gives the first number for a graph. Next drop the first number and pick up the eleventh. Add those together and divide by ten for the second number on the graph. Repeat for the century to see if there is a trend.


21 posted on 08/08/2022 9:33:50 AM PDT by Retain Mike ( Sat Cong)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s very simple. One hundred degrees Fahrenheit/38º C in 1922 wasn’t really the same as in 2022. Thermometers weren’t digital so they were often misread. And people weren’t as smart then either. And even though photographs show high tides at exactly the same place 100 years ago, they aren’t the same either. How dare people sow doubt—using historic facts to dispute theories.


22 posted on 08/08/2022 9:40:28 AM PDT by hanamizu
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To: IYAS9YAS
Never forget that the whole "CO2 global warming" scam was invented by the neo-malthusian Club of Rome as a tool to force a drastic die-off of human populations. This is only the beginning. Ultimately, YOU are the carbon they want to reduce.

Meanwhile, trust the climate oligarchs to find private profit in public policy.

23 posted on 08/08/2022 9:40:42 AM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: central_va

24 posted on 08/08/2022 9:40:58 AM PDT by gundog ( It was a bright cold day in April, and the clocks were striking thirteen. )
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To: gundog

When in doubt, run in circles scream and shout.


25 posted on 08/08/2022 9:43:25 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The facts are simple— and benign. Most monitoring agencies agree that the earth has been undergoing gradual incremental warming since maybe 1850 at the end of the Little Ice Age. The rate of warming is about .10-.12 degrees per decade, a little more than one degree per century; and the rate is not accelerating. There are stretches of years when the atmosphere warms a tiny bit every year, and there are stretches of years when it does not warm at all. The last six years according to NASA or NOAA the earth has cooled slightly. Recorded daily temperatures are all over the place.

The average daily temperature is where the warming is seen, not in the recorded daily highs. The only reliable warming trend is for the daily lows, especially at high northern latitudes; ie, the nights in the arctic are gradually getting slightly less frigid.

All the rest is pretty much armwaving.

26 posted on 08/08/2022 9:45:52 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate change has been around for millions of years. How do these climate hoax frauds explain the earth going from tropical climates, to ice ages, then change its climate again? It’s a cyclical thing, and not man-made. I’m glad I’m on the tail-end of my life, and won’t have to see my tax dollars being wasted much longer on horse$hit like this.


27 posted on 08/08/2022 9:50:00 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne )
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

We don’t deny climate; we deny that it is affected by or can be affected by human actions.


28 posted on 08/08/2022 10:14:29 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Climate deniers are using actual data? That has to be racist or white supremacist or something.


29 posted on 08/08/2022 10:19:22 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: IYAS9YAS

Future generations will compare the global warming hysteria to primitive tribes being terrified of eclipses.


30 posted on 08/08/2022 10:40:53 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (THE ISSUE IS NEVER THE ISSUE. THE REVOLUTION IS THE ISSUE.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Geez, whoever saw summer get hot??


31 posted on 08/08/2022 10:46:18 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If it werent for climate change, Chicago would still be under a mile of ice.


32 posted on 08/08/2022 11:02:14 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Don't ask the question of WHERE they are monitoring the temperature! That is not allowed. We all know that the audit of these temperature monitoring stations have shown they are not placed properly in many locations. (i.e. they skew the data to the climate hoaxers advantage)

The other thing is every day when you watch the weather guessers on the tv set you occasionally see the "record temperature" as 80, 90 or more years ago. Don't look at that! They know you will think - hey, what caused all these high temperatures 90 years ago when there were billions of less people and less carbon output.

The very term "CLIMATE CHANGE" is on purpose. If you dispute anything the hoaxers are spinning in their web of lies you then become a "Climate Change Denier". Everyone on the earth knows that the climate changes by the second every day! Never deny climate change. Admit that the climate changes because it does. But always confront the hoaxsters with their manipulated data sets and origins of CO2.

33 posted on 08/08/2022 11:11:06 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This fits me perfectly. They talk about how the temps are increasing because of global warming, and I point out that according to the records, the highest temp for this day was (something like 1953). They don’t like to hear that. They like to point out that the temps have been increasing steadily. I point out that in some cases the record LOW for this day was AFTER the record high.

They just don’t like that their talking points are so easily refuted by the FACTS.


34 posted on 08/08/2022 11:20:36 AM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: DesertRhino

“In other words, they use actual reality to sow doubt on a pop science theory?”

In that case, the old heat records will just be deleted from online access and then replaced with more correct heat records. Those old heat records are inconsistent with the SCIENCE. So they must be wrong.


35 posted on 08/08/2022 11:47:06 AM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: DesertRhino
In other words, they use actual reality to sow doubt on a pop science theory?

How dare them user actual data!!! Heretics!

36 posted on 08/08/2022 11:47:10 AM PDT by zeugma (Stop deluding yourself that America is still a free country.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This August is the hottest August on record....so is September.


37 posted on 08/08/2022 11:50:52 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Bob434

These climate kooks are worse than the covid bunch. Now they complain we deniers are using past data to support our contention there is no warming. However these scientific paragons of virtue will in turn: use past data, omit past data, create data out of thin air and then tell us we are deniers and hate science. It seems unless you are a congenital liar you are not fit to be a scientist anymore...


38 posted on 08/08/2022 11:53:20 AM PDT by sarge83
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

When has the climate NOT changed ?????


39 posted on 08/08/2022 11:57:48 AM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ever notice how on the news we are constantly breaking temperature records ???? They cleverly do this by using data from individual cities instead of state records. In NJ Therefore they can claim “today” was a record hot temperature in say Newark NJ when it was not a record for much of the rest of the state. Most of the public just hears that it was a heat record day without understanding that it was only one or two cities that broke a record not the entire region.


40 posted on 08/08/2022 12:07:08 PM PDT by XRdsRev (Justice for Bernell Trammell, Trump supporter, murdered in 2020)
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