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Another of Putin's prized £3million T-90 supertanks is blown sky high in Ukraine when attack 'by Kyiv forces' hits ammo inside
MAILONLINE ^ | 6 August 2022 | ADAM SOLOMONS

Posted on 08/06/2022 12:05:22 PM PDT by dennisw

Another of Putin's prized £3million T-90 supertanks is blown sky high in Ukraine when attack 'by Kyiv forces' hits ammo inside and causes a spectacular explosion Latest footage emerges of elite Russian tank exploding as internal ammo struck

More than 20 of the £3million vehicles are thought wrecked so far in Ukraine First built in the early-90s, new versions have become a premium weapon of war But even cheap Ukrainian rockets have reportedly seen the T-90 blown to pieces

Yet another advanced Russian T-90 tank has been destroyed in Ukraine, dramatic footage shows.

The £3million weapon of war was thought to be one of the world's premier tanks, but a spate of destructions since Russia's invasion began has thrown that into doubt.

Video posted on Telegram channel Butusov Plus appears to show the T-90, nicknamed the 'Vladimir', obliterated after its own ammunition is struck by a rocket.

Ukrainian veteran Butusov, who has more than half a million YouTube subscribers, claimed the attack was carried out by the air defence force in Kharkiv.\

Within a few hours, the incredible footage had well over 80,000 YouTube views.

At least 20 Russian T-90 tanks plus two advanced T-90Ms, first built in 2016, are estimated to have been destroyed so far, open intelligence source Onyx claims.

As of this morning, the Ukrainian army claims to have destroyed a total of 1,792 tanks, up three from yesterday.

The vast majority are the less advanced T-72s, but at least a handful of T-90s are also thought to have been wrecked since the outbreak of war on February 24.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adamsolomons; nwostooge; russia; t90; war
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To: dennisw

A single tank blown up is newsworthy now? Must be summer vacation season. I hear the Black Sea coast is nice.


21 posted on 08/06/2022 1:03:35 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: MercyFlush
Color me unimpressed. One astute Freeper recently pointed out that the U.S. hasn’t fought an enemy wearing something more than sandals since the Korean War. And that was 70 freaking years ago.
22 posted on 08/06/2022 1:05:32 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("It's midnight in Manhattan. This is no time to get cute; it's a mad dog's promenade.")
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To: McGruff

We’ll need to mention something and remind people of the millions of dead Russians and thousands of dead Russian Generals…


23 posted on 08/06/2022 1:07:42 PM PDT by Morpheus2009 (If you want me to be afraid, then be consistent in your logic, standards, and your lies!s)
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To: MercyFlush

When did the T90 & M1A2 meet in combat with Russian and American crews?


24 posted on 08/06/2022 1:10:49 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (The nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master and deserves one. Hamilton)
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To: Morpheus2009

You would think that with 1000s of tanks blown up, millions of Russian military deaths, this war would be over. But I guess there are more Vogue magazine covers and bomb shelter concerts needed.


25 posted on 08/06/2022 1:17:12 PM PDT by Right Brother
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To: Alberta's Child

Wouldn’t the Gulf War count in your scenario since the Korean War? The U.S. left their enemy, the Iraq Republican Guard, in shambles. And they wore combat boots not sandals.


26 posted on 08/06/2022 1:22:55 PM PDT by sasportas ( )
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To: Alberta's Child

What about Kosovo?


27 posted on 08/06/2022 1:23:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Alberta's Child

Now whine to me about the Avro Arrow like every other Canukistanian does.


28 posted on 08/06/2022 1:23:46 PM PDT by MercyFlush (☭☭☭ Soviet Russia must be destroyed. ☭☭☭)
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To: MercyFlush
"I take it you’re not so impressed with the T-14 Armata?"

As most folks know, the T-14 exists mostly on paper, with a few prototypes made available for parades. Kind of like the SU-57. The T-14 will never make it into full scale serial production and there's no way Putin will allow his prized parade tanks anywhere near a Javelin or other modern anti-tank weapon.

29 posted on 08/06/2022 1:31:57 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: dennisw

Gee I hate it when that happens


30 posted on 08/06/2022 1:33:13 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: mowowie

Because US workers are paid union wages. Russia not so much


31 posted on 08/06/2022 1:35:42 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds )
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To: noiseman

During World War II, the Soviets lost as destroyed about 45,000 T-34 medium tanks ALONE. That number does not include the thousands of self propelled howitzers, tank destroyers, KV-1 heavy tanks and various light tanks like the T-26, and BT-5, and 7. The US lost about 4,300 Sherman tanks on the Western front. Despite this carnage, it is indisputable that the tank enabled the resumption and exploitation of mobile combined arms operations on the battlefield by all of the major combatants in Europe.

Yes the tank is very vulnerable to modern anti tank munitions. But it fulfills a role that no other AFV can provide. A source of direct fire medium artillery and MG fire that can conduct semi independent mobile actions, and is capable of staying on station continually with other ground forces in the infantry support role, all with reasonably good armor protection against most of the threats directed against it.

Despite the Ukrainians success’s against Russian armor, one of the first weapons that they are asking the West to supply them with is up to date armored fighting vehicles. They know how valuable they are, and can be.


32 posted on 08/06/2022 1:37:03 PM PDT by DMZFrank (As you point out, the )
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To: Monterrosa-24

It’s where the ammo is stored in the turret - because of the auto loader - that makes them so vulnerable to blowing up.


33 posted on 08/06/2022 1:47:47 PM PDT by ManardG
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To: oldplayer

Destroyed or captured. Most of the crews probably survived. The usual mode of destruction isn’t a catastrophic ammo explosion. Sometimes that happens when the tanks been burning a bit, sometimes immediately.


34 posted on 08/06/2022 1:59:07 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: dennisw

I know who is losing when the destruction of one tank is worth a boasting article.


35 posted on 08/06/2022 2:12:25 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: dennisw

Makes you wonder if the M1A1 Abrams could survive in such a situation.


36 posted on 08/06/2022 2:23:54 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every leftist is a blood-thirsty fascist yearning to be free of current societal constraints.)
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To: volunbeer

I absolutely agree with you. Surface navies are fast becoming obsolete (the moving foxhole attracts the eye, or in this case the missile). Our air force should be unmanned in twenty years, and by that time we will have perfected the robots needed for land warfare.


37 posted on 08/06/2022 2:44:22 PM PDT by Bookshelf
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To: Monterrosa-24; All

These didn’t have autoloaders either -

https://www.nationalww2museum.org/visit/exhibits/traveling-exhibits/ghost-army-combat-con-artists-world-war-ii

But they still worked!

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Off subject a little.

Can you imagine, somehow we misplaced (lost) this WWII big boy -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/T28_Super_Heavy_Tank

https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/army-lost-a-super-heavy-tank/

Obviously (from an engineering perspective), we were capable of engineering tanks far beyond the Sherman, but pretty sure we decided not to pursue expensive land based battleships (which would have needed names with the prefixes beginning with “USS”, and opted for rapid production and numerical advantage (tank/armor pervasion) OVER more costly, highly engineered, longer production line processes, even though we knew the German Panzer’s were superior, and Russian T-34’s were at least as good (some argue better) than the Sherman.

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In 2010/2011, Russia began an armor program with multiple ideas in mind, which would (over time), begin to pull a high percentage of it’s nearly 80,000 tanks out of mothballs, (predominantly stored in very large facilities in Eastern and Centeal Siberia), AND upgrade them with new engines, guns, targeting system’s, reactive armor, etc...

The strategic argument put forward was much the same as the US in WWII, moving away from the NEW and very expensive Russian T-14 Armata, and going with much greater NUMERICAL advantage, and putting to use the raw and formed steel already there.

We have tracked (observed) the process beginning with massive tank boneyards in the East, which are then moved by rail to multiple points in Siberia moving West toward the Ural Mountains. The process begins with being stripped down, then acid washed, rewheeled/retracked, upgraded powerplants, upgraded drivetrains, new guns/targeting/and guidance systems, and finishing largely in Russia’s Southern Military District.

There are many open source video’s out there, showing different processes and capabilities.

Even now, (2022), Russia and it’s subordinate CIS partners are really only just beginning this larger plan, and are still figuring out how advanced and costly they are willing to go.

Multiple state companies are involved, and even the Chinese. I have personally seen upgraded T-72’s firing while at speeds of approximately 60mph with no crews at all, and satellite guided from “race tracks” in Western Russia.

Again, how much per tank (economic cost) is the question.

Another question we have heard from some in Moscow has to do with how much can they make the West spend destroying far cheaper tanks. In other words, can we (Russia), field running/non-rebuilt tanks, really worth only a couple hundred thousand dollars, and make the West spend half a million dollars to destroy it.

The recent answer can be yes. However, the UAV/drone, and other weapons tech is rapidly changing the calculus against this theory.

Some of this is smart, in that Russia has all this metal already mined and formed, so why not remake it. No need to start from ore in the ground.
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Question then becomes, can they streamline the process of creating high speed, automated, defendable armor?


38 posted on 08/06/2022 2:45:18 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Makes you wonder if the M1A1 Abrams could survive in such a situation.

Unlikely.

39 posted on 08/06/2022 3:05:32 PM PDT by ETCM
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To: dennisw
The men of the 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment spearheaded one of the American columns that invaded Iraq on Feb. 23, 1991.

After three days of light fighting they stumbled into one of the largest Iraqi armored formations and annihilated it with cannons, TOW missiles and mortars in the Battle of 73 Easting, often called “the last great tank battle of the 20th century.”

Then-Capt. (now Lt. Gen.) H.R. McMaster, commander of Eagle Troop, 2nd Squadron, 2nd ACR, literally wrote the book on the battle and commanded one of the lead elements in the fight.

The video is worth watching

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=yhs-mnet-001&ei=UTF-8&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=mnet&param1=3093&param2=84460&p=Battle+of+73+Easting%2C+video&type=type9014486-spa-3093-84460#action=view&id=1&vid=83e1b993d0a4ef2c49e9b0feabf47864

40 posted on 08/06/2022 3:18:49 PM PDT by SpokeshaveReturns (Grandad Spokeshave)
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