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Manchin: Talks with Schumer on spending plan slowed by inflation concerns
NY Post ^ | July 31, 2022 | Mark Moore

Posted on 07/31/2022 8:51:01 AM PDT by Ahithophel

Sen. Joe Manchin said that negotiations with Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer on the ​$739 billion spending bill went on for months because of concerns that the legislation would further stoke already high inflation rates.

The moderate West Virginia Democrat, whose opposition to President Biden’s $2 trillion Build Back Better Act sunk the measure in December, said he started working with Schumer on the pared down package in the spring – part of a process that was occasionally interrupted by rising inflation rates.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: buildbackbetter; inflation; manchin; schumer
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

When is Leahy returning from his broken hip? Right now Republicans outnumber Dems 50-49.


21 posted on 07/31/2022 9:54:46 AM PDT by Gahanna Bob
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To: BobL

[But since he is a Democrat it takes a lot more courage to go against the rest of the Democrats in the way he did.]


He’s not standing up to Biden and Schumer. He’s doing the minimum necessary to save his seat without flipping to the GOP. Trump won by 40 points in WV. That’s not a Trump phenomenon. It’s a GOP phenom. WV is becoming extremely Republican in its voting patterns. Morrissey* was the first GOP AG in ~80 years, and the man is from NJ, where he ran for a House seat.

If Manchin doesn’t flip to the GOP, he is done. If he does this deal, even if he flips later, he’s done anyway. If Manchin becomes a born-again Republican, I could see Morrissey running against him in the primary just to settle some unfinished business from 2018.

* In 2012, Morrissey won AG by 2.5%. In 2016, he won by 10%. In 2020, he won by 28%. You can almost read the writing on the wall for 2024.


22 posted on 07/31/2022 9:56:56 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Ahithophel

Hey Joe:

““Statistically Indistinguishable from Zero”: Wharton Study Finds the Inflation Reduction Act Agreed Upon by Schumer and Manchin Has No Impact on Inflation”

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4082254/posts

ZERO IMPACT on reducing inflation!


23 posted on 07/31/2022 9:57:10 AM PDT by Bob434 (question)
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To: Gahanna Bob
Good question.

Is Sinema supporting the bill, or is there still a question mark about her?

24 posted on 07/31/2022 10:02:38 AM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Zhang Fei

I agree with how red WV is, but even so, there are TONS of Democrats (and even Republicans) in office who don’t seem to notice what state they’re from...instead they look at this as their BIG CHANCE.

Take Court Packing and the Filibuster, for example. With both in place House Bill 1 (again, to steal elections) would be the law of the land, and any complaints that the Republicans would be taken up by a court system that is OWNED by the DNC...so Manchin would still not have to worry about re-election, other than maybe getting Primaried out, but even that would be unlikely if he supporting packing and court expansion.

So, with the above in place, short of a violent uprising (rather than a quick walk-through of the Capitol), there would not be a DAMN THING we could do about it. They Democrat DREAM to destroy this country would have everything in place. Manchin, so far, has prevented that and we’re DAMN LUCKY he did.

And don’t get me wrong - I have not and will not ever vote for a Democrat (or independent) for national office, or push doing the same, even if the Republican was as uncouth as Trump with a voting record of Susan Collins - he/she would STILL get my vote. 30 years ago there was a small overlap between parties, now there simply isn’t a single Democrat that I know of who’s to the right of our worst Republicans.


25 posted on 07/31/2022 10:13:20 AM PDT by BobL (The Globalists/Neocons desperately want Ukraine to win...makes it easy for me to choose a side)
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To: Ahithophel

They are running cover for this Judas choad.


26 posted on 07/31/2022 10:26:47 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Old Retired Army Guy
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They are dirty.

No mystery here.

27 posted on 07/31/2022 10:33:47 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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28 posted on 07/31/2022 10:40:07 AM PDT by AnthonySoprano (Lindsey Graham: How can anyone be Mad at Joe Biden)
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To: Ahithophel; All
Thank you for referencing that article Ahithophel. Please note that the following critique is directed at Manchin and Schumer and not at you.

"Manchin: Talks with Schumer on spending plan slowed by inflation concerns [emphasis added]"


FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument

What's really slowing down the Manchin / Schumer constitutionally indefensible, desparate Democratic election year spending plan is this. Neither Manchin or Schumer have introduced a resolution to propose a new amendment to the Constitution that, if the states chose to ratify proposed amendment, would give Congress the specific new powers that it needs to pass Manchin's bill in the first place.

Insights welcome.

Speaking of election year, Trump's red tsunami of patriot supporters are reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents in federal and state governments. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.

Again, insights welcome.

29 posted on 07/31/2022 10:46:41 AM PDT by Amendment10 ( )
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To: Ahithophel

Their plan is to get money into the pockets of their friends and family nothing else


30 posted on 07/31/2022 11:35:57 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: butlerweave

And burnish up Manchin’s leftist credentials so he can make a play for 2024 Prez contest. He’s deluded on that but if you have to have a delusion make it a big one!


31 posted on 07/31/2022 11:40:33 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Saltmeat
It would make sense if you knew what largess Manchin wrangled for West Virginia.

Manchin sat in the shiny Lamborghini in the horseshoe driveway of his new mansion and looked at the envelope stuffed with non sequential cash and thought "There has to be a way I can thank Chuck Shumer for all this. He's so kind."

32 posted on 07/31/2022 11:58:05 AM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: Ahithophel

One way or the other Congre$$ alway$ find way$ to continue to grab money and make $ure the DC $wamp continue$ to grow and enrich it$elf.


33 posted on 07/31/2022 11:59:20 AM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Ahithophel

Well apparently those concerns are now over with for Manchin since he wants to spend several hundred billion extra dollars on another supplemental bill and raise taxes on corporations which will further raise the prices of goods and services and end planned long term investment in the United States - from which we may never fully recover even if this bill is later reversed. Investors are not going to make long term plans in the United States if the tax rates are going to keep changing. Our lower rates gave us a competitive advantage against other nations, and blunted the effect of tariffs by lowering our own cost of production. That is all being thrown out the window.


34 posted on 07/31/2022 12:56:37 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Saltmeat; GOPJ
It would make sense if you knew what largess Manchin wrangled for West Virginia.

Manchin votes for "climate change" policy in the dishonestly named "Inflation Reduction" bill but gets pipeline for WV. Who knows what else.

link: https://www.wvnews.com/news/wvnews/west-virginia-sen-manchin-applauds-ferc-policy-shift-on-natural-gas-pipelines/article_6e1fd9d4-ac3d-11ec-9a37-8b356f1da5ae.html

35 posted on 07/31/2022 1:45:59 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Gahanna Bob

Dont worry they will find a way to get that cadavers vote


36 posted on 07/31/2022 2:16:54 PM PDT by italianquaker
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To: butlerweave

And burnish up Manchin’s leftist credentials so he can make a play for 2024 Prez contest. He’s deluded on that but if you have to have a delusion make it a big one!


37 posted on 07/31/2022 2:53:24 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Ahithophel

I can picture Joe saying: “No, no, no. Look here. This plan will lower inflation, not raise it. Don’t you understand? C’MON, MAN!”


38 posted on 08/01/2022 8:18:34 AM PDT by rwa265
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To: Ahithophel
concerns that the legislation would further stoke already high inflation rates.

It will, thanks for nothing Joe.

39 posted on 08/01/2022 8:20:04 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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