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The one point that can get people off the global warming obsession train: If people knew this little fact about CO2, there would be far less global warming panic
American Thinker ^ | 07/29/2022 | Ron Ross

Posted on 07/29/2022 7:27:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: PGR88

You should have shown the source for this chart. It’s a FANTASTIC site!

Thanks for the tip!

https://www.climate4you.com/GlobalTemperatures.htm


61 posted on 07/29/2022 1:21:50 PM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: bigbob
Follow the maths!

it is math ... unless you're a foreigner ...
62 posted on 07/29/2022 1:29:37 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: Cobra64

“You learn this stuff in eighth grade science class...”

USED to learn it, anyway. The AGW cabal has pushed changes to curriculum to help obscure Reality from the kids.


63 posted on 07/29/2022 4:10:04 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

Please let me know how that turns out.


64 posted on 07/29/2022 4:30:20 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Myrddin

“Oxygen breathers require the services of green plants to convert CO2 into free oxygen.”

And FOOD. No plants, no food.


65 posted on 07/29/2022 5:39:02 PM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: SomeCallMeTim

“Our inability to properly model cloud formation and precipitation.”

The magnetic field of the sun controls the amount of cosmic rays reaching the Earth. Many scientists believe cosmic rays are part of cloud formation. When the sun is strong its magnetic field deflects more cosmic rays away. Weak sun, less heat, weak field, more rays, more clouds, even less heat. Strong sun, more heat, strong field, less rays, less clouds, even more heat.

The resulting water vapor cycles you mentioned are the only damper to the above.

If you have ever seen a “cosmic ray detector” at a jr. high science fair, this makes a lot of sense.

The Earth’s magnetic field protects us from the sun’s solar winds. I don’t know much about it BUT, it is common knowledge that the N pole is way out of place and moving in one direction.

The environment that allows us to live here is not a delicate balance. It is a remarkable combination of forces we cannot control. There are many environmental things we can screw up. I don’t think altering the climate is one of them.


66 posted on 07/29/2022 6:08:11 PM PDT by Neverlift (When someone says "you just can't make this stuff up" odds are good, somebody did.)
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To: Neverlift

A lot of people don’t realize we are currently in an Ice Age - the Quaternary. A geologic age characterized by CYCLIC continental glaciations (That is ‘Ice Ages’! Also there have been many many ‘Ice Ages’!). The last glaciation ended roughly 15k to 20k years ago. (Depends on where you want to put your finger and start counting!) What we’ve had since the is a warm lull with ups and downs like the warming trend that help create the ancient Middle Eastern civilization, the cold period that contributed to their collapse, the Greco-Roman Warming period, cooling period of the Dark Ages, the Middle Age Warming period, etc. Man has no role in this, it’s the sun, earth’s dynamic geology, orbital & planetary dynamics, the increase and decrease of the earth’s magnetic field and even cosmic rays. It’s foolish to think we do! If the cold cycle comes back in a big way (At some point it will!) we will just have to adapt.


67 posted on 07/29/2022 6:24:27 PM PDT by Reily
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To: SomeCallMeTim
Unless we fully understand it, we can’t accurately project the result of increasing GH gases.

Sounds as though you have bought in to their greenhouse gas BS and are convinced that we can do something about it.

68 posted on 07/30/2022 6:26:09 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: JimRed
Sounds as though you have bought in to their greenhouse gas BS and are convinced that we can do something about it.

Really? That's what you got from that statement? What I was trying to convey was: The computer models being used to predict the doom are virtually useless because they cannot accurately predict the MOST SIGNIFICANT moderating force.

69 posted on 07/30/2022 7:53:18 AM PDT by SomeCallMeTim ( The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them!it)
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To: SomeCallMeTim
The computer models being used to predict the doom are virtually useless because they cannot accurately predict the MOST SIGNIFICANT moderating force.

OK. Mea culpa on the misinterpretation.

70 posted on 07/30/2022 10:03:57 AM PDT by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: SeekAndFind
How can such a small magnitude of CO2 be dooming humanity?

Um, did this guy not read the first thing he wrote? It's the dosage that matters, not how "little" there seems to be.

CO is dangerous at 100ppm.

Flourides start damaging your thyroid system at 1ppm.

NO2: 13 ppm

OF2: 0.5 ppm

Osmium Tetroxide: 1ppb (yes, the 'b' is correct)

So yea, 400 ppm is actually a rather LARGE number depending on the situation. Sure, it's not dangerous for CO2, but this guy doesn't really tie his paragraphs together very well.
71 posted on 08/01/2022 5:41:45 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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