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Tulsi Gabbard, Rand Paul Placed on List of Russian Propagandists by Ukraine
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Posted on 07/26/2022 8:39:28 AM PDT by Kazan

Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and former Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard have been listed by Ukraine among a number of American politicians, academics and activists Kyiv claims have promoted “Russian propaganda.”

The list was compiled by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, founded in 2021 by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to study the impact of Russian disinformation. The center is part of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council.

The list—which also includes retired U.S. Army Colonel Douglas Macgregor, military strategist Edward Luttwak, political scientist John Mearsheimer and journalist Glenn Greenwald—does not explain what the consequences are for those who Ukraine clearly considers responsible for promoting the Kremlin’s line. But it offers explanations for inclusion on the list.

In April, Paul said President Joe Biden provoked Russia to invade its neighbor by advocating Ukraine’s entrance into NATO.

He also said: “You could also argue the countries they’ve attacked were part of Russia. Or part of the Soviet Union.”

Paul was immediately rebuked for this by Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who said Russia was not justified in invading Ukraine.

Former Rep. Gabbard said that the U.S. had provoked Putin for many years and that there are 25 dangerous biolabs in Ukraine that could release deadly pathogens.

The former representative has been accused of of lending credibility to Russian propaganda.

The biolab claims have also been supported by Greenwald, who Ukraine says didn’t want the U.S. to help Ukraine to avoid provoking Russia into a nuclear war.

Macgregor is listed as having said that the Russian army was highly skilled and “invincible,” while Mearsheimer is on Ukraine’s blacklist for having said NATO provoked Vladimir Putin into war.

Luttwak is listed as having given support to holding referendums in the breakaway Ukrainian regions of Luhansk and Donetsk.

Newsweek has contacted Paul, Gabbard, Macgregor, Mearsheimer, Greenwald and Luttwak for comment.

Greenwald told UnHerd that the list was “standard McCarthyite idiocy.” Mearsheimer told the news site he was disappointed with being listed as a Russian propagandist, while he defended his claim that the war was provoked by the U.S. wanting to accept Ukraine into NATO.

Luttwak also objected to the label of Russian propagandist. Talking to UnHerd, he said he was not “exactly Putin’s most faithful agent,” saying he has argued for Western powers to send weapons to Ukraine since “day one of the war.”

As well as U.S. citizens, the list of “Russian propagandists” includes political figures, experts and public figures from Germany, Switzerland, Brazil, Poland and France.

Other Americans on the list are: political and business advisor Harlan Ullman, author Paul Pillar, economists Jeffrey Sachs and Steve Hanke, political analyst Brian Berletic, academics Patrick Basham and Clifford Kiracofe, former army officer David Payne, ex-diplomat Michael Springmann, retired intelligence officer Scott Ritter, finance specialist Jason Ross, businessman Mike Callicrate, politicians Geoff Young and Diane Sare, journalists Caleb Maupin and Tony Magliano, retired business consultant George Koo, Republican former Senate staffer Jim Jatras, former CIA officer Ray McGovern, former Virginia State Senator Richard Black and political analyst Graham Fuller.


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To: Gaffer

So the article had nothing to do with any American fighting on the ground in Ukraine.

But just like Putin’s real propagandists you have to change the subject every time.

The people identified take positions that aid the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Ukraine identified them. Big deal.

Doesn’t involve picking up a rifle and fighting anywhere.


21 posted on 07/26/2022 9:06:36 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: Kazan
Why are they so concerned about Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul’s opinion? Why is the Ukrainian Government so insecure?

One would almost think that the Government is illegitimate or something…
22 posted on 07/26/2022 9:07:39 AM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Haven’t seen that. Sounds interesting.


23 posted on 07/26/2022 9:07:46 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U
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To: Kazan

The real democracy is Russia.

And far less corruption. /s


24 posted on 07/26/2022 9:10:29 AM PDT by lonestar67 (America is exceptional)
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To: Williams

NO. It is you who are guilty of diversion. You apparently avidly support anything against Russia and are willing to call out Tulsi Gabbard and Rand Paul on it because they are concerned about the remarkably brazen Zog - who has fired many of his potential detractors and shut the mouths of his opposition. The only thing you didn’t append them with is “Pootin Puffer.” Screw off....


25 posted on 07/26/2022 9:11:00 AM PDT by Gaffer (Infidel, and proud of it!)
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To: Kazan
Everything we accuse Russia and Putin of is actually ALSO true of Ukraine and Zelensky

There, fixed it.

26 posted on 07/26/2022 9:15:28 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: Kazan
Paul, Gabbard, Macgregor, Mearsheimer, Greenwald and Luttwak

American patriots.

27 posted on 07/26/2022 9:23:45 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: Kazan

It’s unwise to choose sides in this war. Both sides are evil.


28 posted on 07/26/2022 9:27:22 AM PDT by nagant
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To: Williams

Or maybe it’s just that every Putin worshipping leftist changes the subject because they’re always wrong.

That’s some deep analysis there.


29 posted on 07/26/2022 9:31:22 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: Kazan

Not knowing too much previously, I used to wish Ukraine’s Government the best, albeit without American involvement.

Over time, they have made me into an opponent.

They had better pray to God their neocon paymasters can carry on, because they are rapidly loosing friends outside of the DC Beltway.


30 posted on 07/26/2022 9:36:04 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: Williams
Tulsi richly deserves it.

If you believe, become a Democrat. Get on the other side so we can kick your ass along with the rest of your neocon, Bush-loving buddies.

The only propaganda being repeated is that of the "liberal world order" and Biden regime. And, you're the one repeating it.

There absolutely WERE biolabs with deadly pathogens in them that were operating in Ukraine. Victoria Nuland and Marco Rubio ADMITTED it. You're a disgrace for trying to blow that off and cover it up.

Our foreign policy has been a disaster, minus the four years under Trump, since the second Iraq war. We've fomented revolutions, destabilized nations, enabled Islam radicals and terrorist groups and neo-Nazis, and caused the deaths of tens of thousands.

You can go straight to hell for defending it all. Your ilk is what needs to be cleansed from the conservative movement.

31 posted on 07/26/2022 9:38:02 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Smearing Gabbard as a Russian propagandist sounds awful similar to Hillary Clinton smearing her as a Russian agent. Smells like a Victoria Nuland operation.

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/clintons-hawk-in-waiting/


32 posted on 07/26/2022 9:38:11 AM PDT by Flick Lives
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To: HighSierra5
Then Zelenski is a globalist puppet.

Only someone stupid or lying doesn't know that.

33 posted on 07/26/2022 9:38:41 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: TribalPrincess2U
The loss of Ukrainian food exports will lead to mass starvation but, hey, famine is the harbinger of totalitarianism.

Coming soon to a continent near you!

34 posted on 07/26/2022 9:42:05 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Beware the coming TRUMPster Fire!)
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To: Williams

“They’re in a war.....”

Are they REALLY in a war or is there just some military activity/operations going on?

Who said its a war? The US Media? Zelensky?

I don’t believe any of the narrative we’re being told by anyone but no, Ukraine is not being conquered and taken over.


35 posted on 07/26/2022 9:45:03 AM PDT by Jaysin (Trump can’t be beat, unless the democrats cheat)
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If zelenski doesn’t stop this, biden will have to withhold the billion dollars


36 posted on 07/26/2022 9:45:43 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: Kazan

The List
https://cpd.gov.ua/reports/
Click on the top link on the page for the complete list.


37 posted on 07/26/2022 9:47:40 AM PDT by sockmonkey (Conservative. Not a Neocon.)
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To: Kazan

Ukrainian Ministry of Truth.
‘Democracy in action’....lulz.

Now I know which Ministry of Truth Speedy, Marcus, PIF, etc. originate from.......


38 posted on 07/26/2022 9:55:05 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Kazan

Rumor is they are using ZEEPER volunteers to compile the list...


39 posted on 07/26/2022 9:56:10 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: Jaysin

Now it’s not a war? so we’ll live in your fantasy world?

Incredible


40 posted on 07/26/2022 10:04:54 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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