Posted on 07/26/2022 8:39:28 AM PDT by Kazan
Kentucky Senator Rand Paul and former Hawaii Representative Tulsi Gabbard have been listed by Ukraine among a number of American politicians, academics and activists Kyiv claims have promoted “Russian propaganda.”
The list was compiled by the Ukrainian Center for Countering Disinformation, founded in 2021 by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to study the impact of Russian disinformation. The center is part of Ukraine’s National Security and Defense Council.
The list—which also includes retired U.S. Army Colonel Douglas Macgregor, military strategist Edward Luttwak, political scientist John Mearsheimer and journalist Glenn Greenwald—does not explain what the consequences are for those who Ukraine clearly considers responsible for promoting the Kremlin’s line. But it offers explanations for inclusion on the list.
In April, Paul said President Joe Biden provoked Russia to invade its neighbor by advocating Ukraine’s entrance into NATO.
He also said: “You could also argue the countries they’ve attacked were part of Russia. Or part of the Soviet Union.”
Paul was immediately rebuked for this by Secretary of State Antony Blinken, who said Russia was not justified in invading Ukraine.
Former Rep. Gabbard said that the U.S. had provoked Putin for many years and that there are 25 dangerous biolabs in Ukraine that could release deadly pathogens.
The former representative has been accused of of lending credibility to Russian propaganda.
The biolab claims have also been supported by Greenwald, who Ukraine says didn’t want the U.S. to help Ukraine to avoid provoking Russia into a nuclear war.
Macgregor is listed as having said that the Russian army was highly skilled and “invincible,” while Mearsheimer is on Ukraine’s blacklist for having said NATO provoked Vladimir Putin into war.
Luttwak is listed as having given support to holding referendums in the breakaway Ukrainian regions of Luhansk and Donetsk.
Newsweek has contacted Paul, Gabbard, Macgregor, Mearsheimer, Greenwald and Luttwak for comment.
Greenwald told UnHerd that the list was “standard McCarthyite idiocy.” Mearsheimer told the news site he was disappointed with being listed as a Russian propagandist, while he defended his claim that the war was provoked by the U.S. wanting to accept Ukraine into NATO.
Luttwak also objected to the label of Russian propagandist. Talking to UnHerd, he said he was not “exactly Putin’s most faithful agent,” saying he has argued for Western powers to send weapons to Ukraine since “day one of the war.”
As well as U.S. citizens, the list of “Russian propagandists” includes political figures, experts and public figures from Germany, Switzerland, Brazil, Poland and France.
Other Americans on the list are: political and business advisor Harlan Ullman, author Paul Pillar, economists Jeffrey Sachs and Steve Hanke, political analyst Brian Berletic, academics Patrick Basham and Clifford Kiracofe, former army officer David Payne, ex-diplomat Michael Springmann, retired intelligence officer Scott Ritter, finance specialist Jason Ross, businessman Mike Callicrate, politicians Geoff Young and Diane Sare, journalists Caleb Maupin and Tony Magliano, retired business consultant George Koo, Republican former Senate staffer Jim Jatras, former CIA officer Ray McGovern, former Virginia State Senator Richard Black and political analyst Graham Fuller.
As I tell others, Russia is a serious country seriously looking out for its own interests and opposing the degenerate globalist agenda. That’s what separates it from a sea of corrupt, unserious globalist degenerate states (and that includes the United States). Zelensky has sold his own country out to the highest bidder, Soros & other globalist degenerate oligarchs. Much like the pedophile degenerate in the White House. I intend to see both taken out and taken down. You seem to have no problem with Zelensky and that corrupt Soros state.
Lots of luck. You are taking on the large Biden Ukey Brigade here and some of our longest time Rino’s.
Except you do support him. That you guys are trying to sell the globalist Soros agenda to defend and protect that corrupt state, thousands of miles away, on a Conservative website no less, is what is worth a cacophony of derisive laughs.
You say a hell of a lot that makes no sense at all.
You pass Russia off as just another nation that looks out for
itself. Say, how many other nations do you see doing what
Russia is right now?
Zero?
And that’s what separates it from who, sane nations?
You poor thing. Seriously, this is all way over your head.
If you don’t know it by now, you need to buy a clue.
I’ve got nothing against you personally, but your arguments
are very flawed.
Long past time for a purge of this trash. Free Republic needs to declare itself once and for all free from globalist and Sorosbot cheerleaders. It’s a disgrace these leftist supporters are allowed to run wild here and smear and attack and intimidate countless good and respected FReepers.
Turkey.
Is that in relation to the Kurds?
Now there’s the gold standard. /s
I state what is obvious. if that flies over your head, that’s on you. But you can resort to claiming this FReeper (who has been here since 1998) is “less than 12 years old” shows your own disconnect from reality.
You’ve not made one sustained point, but yeah I’m wrong to
notice it.
It’s not my fault you refuse to acknowledge reality and that your entire argument falls apart with just the smallest amount of scrutiny. But, hey, you always have your litany of banal attacks you and your Sorosbot comrades employ in lieu of credible arguments.
Yeah, that has all been addressed on this thread, but hey
you go ahead and slander others to your heart’s content.
Despite having criminals as leaders, nations still have a right
to exist.
DUH!
I’ve slandered no one here. I’ve merely spoken the truth, exposing the evil and warmongering agenda of the Sorosbots and they call it slander.
You tried to slander folks who know Soros for what he is and
have for decades. Further, you won’t even own up to what you
are doing.
It’s not truth. It’s lying about others.
The Ukraine is a sovereign nation recognized by most nations
on the planet. It has as much right to exist as Russia does.
This being true does not make me a supporter of Soros.
Yes, a NATO country bombing Kurds that we, the United States, trained to aid us in killing jihadis in another of our stupid adventurist wars against the wrong country. (Still waiting for the Saudis to be held accountable for 9-11)
Now there’s the gold standard. /s
More like a double standard.
Nations (unlike genders) can be fluid. When nations/states fall into deep corruption, it can and should open them up to being toppled either from within or without. Ukraine had ample time to prove it could be a serious state, it summarily failed. That it decided to provoke a serious state in Russia with outrageously provocative actions under a demonstrably corrupt puppet leader has proven it is entitled to no right to exist as it currently stands. The Ukrainian people should hold and convict Zelensky for crimes against humanity and high treason and corruption.
I've lied about no one.
"This being true does not make me a supporter of Soros."
And yet it does.
Yes, I’d agree.
That’s a real mess.
We don’t want to force Turkey into the other camp, but we
don’t exactly what it in ours either.
And yet it doesn’t.
Regardless of who put Zelensky in, the Ukraine still has a
right to exist.
You skewing the truth to slander others, really
accomplishes one thing. It devalues your credibility.
You are so full of B.S., you actually manufacture more so
you can slop it across the forum.
Russia didn’t go into the Ukraine on the pretense of stopping
criminal behavior. It went in there to annex land pure
and simple.
It exhibited criminal behavior of it’s own. It’s called a
war crime, killing many civilians so it could take over
the AZOV Gas Preserve and the Oil fields of the Ukraine.
I guess that means China can invade Russia, since it’s a
criminal enterprise.
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