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New York Social Media Requirement Prevents Authorization of Permits
AmmoLand ^ | July 18, 2022 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 07/25/2022 5:07:20 AM PDT by marktwain

The New York State anti-Second Amendment law, enacted under an extraordinary session brought about by Governor Hochel, is blatantly unconstitutional under the terms of the recent Bruen decision by the Supreme Court. Several provisions of the law are likely to be struck down. This article focuses on the requirement to provide social media accounts and the practical mechanisms, which mean very few permits will be approved under this provision.

Those which are approved are likely to take an unconstitutional amount of time. From Bruen, page 30 of the opinion, footnote 9:

 And they likewise appear to contain only “narrow, objective, and definite standards” guiding licensing officials, Shuttlesworth v. Birmingham, 394 U. S. 147, 151 (1969), rather than requiring the “appraisal of facts, the exercise of judgment, and the formation of an opinion,” Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U. S. 296, 305 (1940)—features that typify proper-cause standards like New York’s. That said, because any permitting scheme can be put toward abusive ends, we do not rule out constitutional challenges to shall-issue regimes where, for example, lengthy wait times in processing license applications or exorbitant fees deny ordinary citizens their right to public carry.

Here is Section IV of the bill:

(IV) A LIST OF FORMER AND CURRENT SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS OF THE APPLICANT FROM THE PAST THREE YEARS TO CONFIRM THE INFORMATION REGARDING THE APPLICANTS CHARACTER AND CONDUCT AS REQUIRED IN SUBPARA-GRAPH (II) OF THIS PARAGRAPH; AND

Section IV appears to directly require the formation of an opinion, rather than “narrow, objective, and definite standards”, as required by Bruen. Bruen states if times to process are “lengthy” or if fees are “exorbitant”, shall issue regimes are likely to fail a Second Amendment test.

Authorities who are empowered by New York State law to issue permits face

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2a; 2ndamendment; banglist; constitution; defundthepolice; ericadams; facebook; guns; instagram; kathyhochul; newyork; newyorkcity; nra; permits; secondamendment; twitter
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The new permit law passed in New York is a double barrelled single finger salute to the Supreme Court.
1 posted on 07/25/2022 5:07:20 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

If we still had an independent judiciary that would indeed be the case.


2 posted on 07/25/2022 5:09:20 AM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: marktwain

And what if someone does not use SM? No gun for you!


3 posted on 07/25/2022 5:21:43 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: rbg81
If you have no social media posts, you cannot turn them in.

I believe they will consider your Freerepublic account to be social media.

4 posted on 07/25/2022 5:24:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

How will they prove they are mine?


5 posted on 07/25/2022 5:32:33 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: marktwain

It is a huge invasion of privacy. And, even if it withstood Constitutional muster (which it won’t), I’m sure they would disqualify law abiding citizens they deemed to be “haters” — so probably anyone who ever said a cross word about a protcted minority. Meanwhile, the true nutjobs would continue to slip through the cracks.


6 posted on 07/25/2022 5:34:37 AM PDT by rbg81
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To: marktwain

Maybe NY should apply this to voting. Let’s see how that works out.


7 posted on 07/25/2022 5:35:11 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: marktwain

What Freerepublic account?


8 posted on 07/25/2022 5:45:50 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Joe Biden, VOTUS. Vegetable of the United States.)
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To: marktwain

“I believe they will consider your Freerepublic account to be social media. “

Under what legal definition of social media?

Anyway, I do not self identify as a user of social media.


9 posted on 07/25/2022 5:50:46 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (c)
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To: Rebelbase
What Freerepublic account?

Sadly, I lot my laptop in a freak boating incident.

10 posted on 07/25/2022 5:52:54 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: KrisKrinkle

Free Republic is social media, no doubt about it. Free Republic might be among the oldest such forms preceding the now more popular others


11 posted on 07/25/2022 5:53:51 AM PDT by bert ( (KWE. NP. N.C. +12) Juneteenth is inequality day)
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To: marktwain

If people like Hochul and Newsome keep it up, the SCOTUS may rule that all gun laws are unconstitutional.


12 posted on 07/25/2022 5:55:46 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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If people like Hochul and Newsome keep it up, the SCOTUS may rule that all gun laws are unconstitutional.

We need a law to prevent activist politicians from passing frivolous laws.

13 posted on 07/25/2022 5:57:18 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro

We also need people willing to stop voting for micro managing tyrants.


14 posted on 07/25/2022 5:58:48 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: marktwain

The New York legislators need to familiarize themseleves with USCC Title 8, Section 242: deprivation of civil rights under color of law.

CC


15 posted on 07/25/2022 6:01:07 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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Start arresting these jackholes for violation of USC 18 Title 242. That’d put a stop to this.

https://www.justice.gov/crt/deprivation-rights-under-color-law#:~:text=Section%20242%20of%20Title%2018,laws%20of%20the%20United%20States.


16 posted on 07/25/2022 6:03:02 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: 1Old Pro

See my comment #15 above: such a law already exists.

CC


17 posted on 07/25/2022 6:03:42 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Hey, great minds and all that huh?

CC


18 posted on 07/25/2022 6:04:53 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Drat! If I wasn’t busy digging up the link, we’d have posted at the same time.

Just started sipping my coffee....


19 posted on 07/25/2022 6:05:17 AM PDT by RandallFlagg ("Okay. As long as the paperwork is clean, you boys can do what you like out there." -Fifi)
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To: RandallFlagg

The libs like using that one against their perceived enemies. I say it’s about time we used it too.

CC


20 posted on 07/25/2022 6:07:45 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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