Posted on 07/20/2022 8:40:35 PM PDT by george76
California .. the bill is coming due.
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no comprehensive plan to dispose of them. Now, panels purchased under those programs are nearing the end of their typical 25-to-30-year life cycle.
Many are already winding up in .. contaminate groundwater with toxic heavy metals such as lead, selenium and cadmium.
Sam Vanderhoof, a solar industry expert and chief executive of Recycle PV Solar, says that only 1 in 10 panels are actually recycled
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The looming challenge over how to handle truckloads of waste...
“The industry is supposed to be green,” Vanderhoof said. “But in reality, it’s all about the money.”
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the industry’s “capacity is woefully unprepared for the deluge of waste
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It’s not just a problem in California but also nationwide.
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there will be an increase in the solar panels entering the waste stream
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Recycling solar panels isn’t a simple process.
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Only about $2 to $4 worth of materials are recovered from each panel.
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That skews the economic incentives against recycling. The National Renewable Energy Laboratory estimated that it costs roughly $20 to $30 to recycle a panel versus $1 to $2 to send it to a landfill.
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The department expects the number of installed solar panels in the next decade to exceed hundreds of millions in California alone, and that recycling will become even more crucial as cheaper panels with shorter life spans become more popular.
A lack of consumer awareness about the toxicity of materials in some panels and how to dispose of them is part of the problem
(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...
Next, a disposal fee like batteries and tires.
The only things renewable about renewables are their problems.
and cost
and unreliability
and pollutin
and cost to make
and environmental impact of mining the materials to make them
and child labor
Other than that and other things, they’re fine.
That's a no **** Sherlock if there ever was one. Hopefully the mezz is breaking.
The system broke down after 3 years. The hard water in San Diego mineralized and destroyed the storage tank. It no longer supplying usable hot water. The manufacturer and installation company were already out of business. 5 actual years of service when 20 was specified. I donated my panels to a repair company. Just getting them off the lawn was a win.
1:The panels are still producing 80% of their capacity at end of life.
2:The solar cells are encapsulated in glass so unless they’re damaged they shouldn’t be leaking anything.🤔
“Green” is the color of the money the purveyors of this sham make. People did things the way they did before the ‘green’ hysteria because that was in fact the most efficient, cost effective, and practical way by simple natural selection of ideas given all variables. How to skin an animal, how to grow wheat, how to raise a family, how to treat criminals. All this time earned wisdom is being tossed out the window by the psychotic ‘world leaders’ bent on some twisted vision.
Solar for hot water is NOT the same as solar electric panels.🤔
there were solar energy credits back in the 80s
the irs caught a company inflating prices with a kickback to the customer to max the credit
p
Dems don’t get it. Unexpected consequences get them every time because they are too stupid to consider the long term consequences of their actions. The phrase “What if?” does not exist to them.
there is another solution that will be greener, cheaper, and function as power-on-demand instead of maybe-power-this-time
The department expects ... that recycling will become even more crucial as cheaper panels with shorter life spans become more popular.”
That means the department considers recycling “crucial” right now.
As usual, though, recycling is cost prohibitive, and is not happening.
So much for “crucial”.
And so much for a government department not beclowning itself.
Thanks for the mention.
Didn’t realize that.
Roofs are supposed to last about 30 years, but, in reality, they only last about 15. And they are far simpler than solar panels.
I don’t own my own home, so I have to use stand alone items.
Panels can be a pain, but they are versatile
I can configure them differently depending on what I’m using them for
at the moment.
But I thought renewables were going to solve all our problems forever!
There was solar-assisted hot water in a house I bought 25 years ago (long-since sold)
Maybe because the 25 to 30 year estimate was overly optimistic...?
Reads to me like it's a cluster.
They’ve been around since the 1970’s - maybe before. Maybe not a big thing then but they were around. So the problem of disposing of the old ones will get worse.
CA was actually pushing them at least as far back as the 90s - these were originally promoted for businesses, apartments, etc.
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