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REPUBLICAN SENATOR: There's 'no dollar amount' limit to our Ukraine spending
The Post Millenial ^ | July 12 2022 | Roberto Wakerell-Cruz

Posted on 07/12/2022 6:41:11 PM PDT by rintintin

Republican Senator Kevin Cramer told Charlie Kirk during a live segment of his show that there is not a "dollar amount" that is too much to send in Ukraine spending.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; US: North Dakota
KEYWORDS: kevincramer; northdakotasenator; thiefinchief; ukrainecashcow
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To: unclebankster

I suggest the US just send all its military stuff to Poland. The Poles are in a much better practical and moral position to allocate it to Ukraine or wherever else they see fit to send it.

The US, as a society and set of institutions, is not morally or functionally fit to even own all this military equipment.


41 posted on 07/12/2022 7:29:34 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: unclebankster

If you no longer own weapons, its much harder to be a warmonger. Give it all to Eastern Europe, now.


42 posted on 07/12/2022 7:30:48 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

No,

Poland pays for those weapons.

Its amazing how political parasites like to give stuff away for free.

I’m in the manufacturing sector...nobody gives me free stuff.

In fact they say I’m a deadbeat who can’t compete with foreign competition on pricing..... So tough luck.


43 posted on 07/12/2022 7:35:22 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: buwaya

They can buy it from us (at a huge mark up) and the profits can go back to the American Tax payer.


44 posted on 07/12/2022 7:40:09 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: rintintin

Republicans are for endless spending...

The Republicans I know, aren’t for endless spending.

Reminds me of the woman who was emphatic that her bank
account couldn’t be over-drafted.

She still had checks.


45 posted on 07/12/2022 7:47:26 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Captainpaintball; rintintin

Was he complaining about it? Or was he happy with this?


Well? Any idea, Rintintin?


46 posted on 07/12/2022 7:48:50 PM PDT by Jane Long (What we were told was a “conspiracy theory” in 2020 is now fact. 🙏🏻 Ps 33:12)
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To: rintintin

Neocons are stupid assed Republicans and Democrats.

They must be expunged from the body politic.

And, ideally, hanged by the neck until dead.


47 posted on 07/12/2022 7:55:42 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: escapefromboston

You will never be rid of it then. Its all a sunk cost. Give it all away at once, lay off all the soldiers, and nobody will be able to argue for spending more money.

You all are not morally fit to be armed.


48 posted on 07/12/2022 7:57:14 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Mariner

If you give away all your weapons to Poland and eliminate your armed forces you will never again have to worry about neocons.


49 posted on 07/12/2022 7:58:51 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: unclebankster

Why? You have no use for them. You are morally unfit to have them (the most critical point, you have to agree). They are mostly a danger to your own people above all. And unless you give them away, now, you will never be rid of them.


50 posted on 07/12/2022 8:02:34 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: rintintin

These sick neocons need to be purged from the GOP.


51 posted on 07/12/2022 8:04:50 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: rintintin

Our nation is bankrupt and the GOP is as responsible as the Dems. It’s just a matter of time before we collapse from utter stupidity, in addition to embracing Satanism.


52 posted on 07/12/2022 8:05:18 PM PDT by Trumpisourlastchance
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To: buwaya

I say this with all due respect , so I hope I don’t offend you but I don’t believe your posts are serious so I will no longer reply to your comments.


53 posted on 07/12/2022 8:07:24 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Free Chauvin)
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To: escapefromboston

You simply have no counter argument.
Does the US need all this?
To whom is the US armed forces a danger? Certainly not to any foreign power. It is poised only to suppress a revolt by its own people. The more is given away the better.


54 posted on 07/12/2022 8:10:42 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Trumpisourlastchance

So it is the last gasp of morality to give your weapons to a moral country and cause. The Poles for instance. Give them all this, before you use it on each other.


55 posted on 07/12/2022 8:12:40 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: rintintin

Well, Mr. Senator it’s nice to care about other counties’ freedoms; but the most dangerous enemies America faces are within its borders. And that “containment” thing is no longer a possible approach for a nation that is well on the road to spending itself to death.


56 posted on 07/12/2022 8:16:40 PM PDT by PerConPat (A politician is an animal which can sit on a fence and yet keep both ears to the ground. - Mencken)
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To: rintintin

Send more $40 billions
57 posted on 07/12/2022 8:23:58 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: rintintin

[Republicans are for endless spending on endless wars, just like Democrats.

The GOP says there’s always enough money for wars. But they also say we ”can’t afford” to fully fund Social Security - so it will have to be cut.]


Social Security and Medicare are $2T a year. The allocation for Ukraine, of which $7b has been disbursed, is $40b. Wars are expensive. WWII cost 2 years economic output. That’s $44T, based on today’s economy. We can have Ukraine fight Russia today, or we can fight Ukrainians serving on the Russian empire’s side tomorrow.

Same reason we sided with China against Japan even before Pearl Harbor. We could support China against Japan or we could fight the Chinese* serving under the Japanese banner later on. 13 days after Pearl Harbor, Claire Chennault’s American Volunteer Group in China took out of commission 9 of 10 Japanese bombers sortieng out of Burma:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Tigers#Combat_history
[The AVG’s first combat mission was on 20 December 1941, when aircraft of the 1st and 2nd squadrons intercepted 10 unescorted Kawasaki Ki-48 “Lily” bombers of the 21st Hikōtai attacking Kunming. The bombers jettisoned their loads before reaching Kunming. Three of the Japanese bombers were shot down near Kunming and a fourth was damaged so severely that it crashed before returning to its airfield at Hanoi. Later, Chinese intelligence intercepted Japanese communications indicating that only 1 out of the 10 bombers ultimately returned to base. Furthermore, the Japanese discontinued their raids on Kunming while the AVG was based there. One P-40 crash-landed; it was salvaged for parts. This mission was one of the earliest American aerial victories in the Pacific War. ]

That’s why we’re allied with Korea and Japan today - to prevent them from being incorporated into the Chinese empire. This isn’t rocket science. The Irish and the Scots were bitter enemies of the English, with slave raids and looting expeditions back and forth for hundreds of years.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Britain#Before_1066

Then the English conquered them both, and Irish and Scots regiments were some of the fightingest units in the British empire’s formations.

The Russian gambit in Ukraine is its way of preparing for the big game, much as Germany’s involvement in the Spanish Civil War and Japan’s invasion of China were their way of preparing for larger conflicts to come. We are supplying Ukraine so the big game never gets under way. Imagine if we had supplied Poland and Czechoslovakia, making them strong enough to resist conquest by Germany and Russia. 400,000 GI’s and $44T dollars (relative to today’s economy) would not have been incinerated in the furnace of WWII. The trick is not to sweat the small stuff. And $40b is small stuff.

* As it was, Taiwanese and Korean recruits served in the Imperial Japanese Army. Two of them became leaders of their respective countries - Lee Teng-hui in Taiwan and Park Chung-hee in South Korea. Singapore’s Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew served as a junior official in the Imperial Japanese government during the war, which he camouflaged by saying Japan’s secret police had him in their sights. That may have triggered no small amount of animosity from the post-war British colonial government against him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Teng-hui#Early_life_and_education
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Park_Chung-hee#Military_Career
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee_Kuan_Yew#World_War_II


58 posted on 07/12/2022 8:26:53 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: buwaya

“So it is the last gasp of morality to give your weapons to a moral country and cause. The Poles for instance. Give them all this, before you use it on each other.”

The United States doesn’t owe a security guarantee to any foreign nation.
Plus can Polish armed services get the job done?
I doubt it since they like to migrate to good jobs in the EU.

Now our State Department likes to sign “stupid paper work” with foreign nations, then a “fire starts” and the good old USA hooks up a fire hose to a gasoline tanker to suppress the fire.

There aren’t any moral countries on the globe....they all have scumbag leadership.
Including a hateful urban America that wants to destroy economic opportunities in rural America.

Our fight is domestic, not foreign, which sucks for neocon ideologues.


59 posted on 07/12/2022 8:27:56 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel)
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To: Zhang Fei

“ Social Security and Medicare are $2T a year”

Tucker said our leaders are planning to spend several trillion in Ukraine. America last

It figures that a neocon like you would be for that


60 posted on 07/12/2022 8:33:09 PM PDT by rintintin (Desantis has a duty to run for president in 2024. We need a competent leader to fight the left)
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