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NATO in ‘Secret Consultations’ to end Ukraine Crisis
theinteldrop.com ^ | July 9, 2022

Posted on 07/10/2022 4:02:16 PM PDT by elpadre

Russian and Ukrainian diplomats held four rounds of talks to try to resolve the crisis in February and March, but stopped meeting after Kiev pulled out of negotiations as US and European officials announced that the conflict must be decided on the battlefield, and sent tens of billions of dollars-worth of military hardware and economic aid to Kiev.

The United States and its European allies are conducting “secret consultations” aimed at ending the Ukrainian crisis, Germany’s Welt newspaper has indicated.

In an commentary published Friday, former US ambassador to Germany John Kornblum and German journalist Rudiger Lentz claimed that the secret talks are intended to find a way to provide Russia with a “face-saving exit” from the crisis. Moscow, they suggested, is waging a war of nerves with the US and its allies, and “counting on war weariness in the West and anti-Western sentiment in the rest of the world” for support.

Kornblum and Lentz cited former West German Chancellor Willy Brandt’s strategy of ‘Ostpolitik’ with East Germany and the Soviet Union as a “classic example” of a diplomatic solution, but said that this policy had only been made possible after decades of Cold War confrontation, including the proxy conflict in Vietnam. They recommended a Reagan-style ‘peace through strength’ approach of military and economic pressure to force “the aggressor” to the table, and suggested that Europe should start by regaining control of the narrative on the Ukraine crisis.

The authors did not elaborate on how the West could ‘regain control of the narrative’. Russian media including Sputnik, RT and others have already been blocked across the European Union, while Facebook and Twitter pay close attention to their platforms to ensure that a pro-Ukrainian, anti-Russian narrative prevails. At the same time, mainstream media outlets from across the political spectrum in the EU and the US continue to echo government talking points about “Vladimir Putin’s aggression” and Russia’s “unprovoked and unjustified war on Ukraine.”


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; News/Current Events; Russia; War on Terror
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To: PIF

“Russian is doing what it historically does - invade, kill and conquer.”

The Western mass media is doing what it historically does—lie, name call, finger point, demonize, scapegoat and war monger.


21 posted on 07/10/2022 4:52:45 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: elpadre

Maybe this will end like the Vietnam War. America will declare “victory” and run away from the fiasco as fast as possible.


22 posted on 07/10/2022 4:54:20 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: Mariner

Uke cedes Donbas area and Zelinsky resigns to live the quiet life of a billionaire in Switzerland?


23 posted on 07/10/2022 4:55:54 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Crush, smash and obliterate the Liberal New World Order)
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To: Mariner

Forgot to add, Joe Biden takes the credit for ending the war.


24 posted on 07/10/2022 4:57:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Crush, smash and obliterate the Liberal New World Order)
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To: PIF

It’s Europe that repeatedly invades Russia....France and Germany come to mind


25 posted on 07/10/2022 4:59:56 PM PDT by Rural_Michigan
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To: elpadre
"...Facebook and Twitter pay close attention tocensor their platforms to ensure that a pro-UkrainianBiden, anti-Russian narrative prevails."

Corrected it...

26 posted on 07/10/2022 5:01:44 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: elpadre

End all of the boomeranging suicide sanctions immediately.

Make deals to ensure the free flow of fuel, fertilizer, and food.


27 posted on 07/10/2022 5:12:38 PM PDT by Arcadian Empire (The Baric-Daszak-Fauci spike protein, by itself, is deadly.)
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To: elpadre

Good. Ukraine is the sick man of Europe. It needs to give up something and strike a compromise deal to end this madness.


28 posted on 07/10/2022 5:17:55 PM PDT by nwrep
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To: Jan_Sobieski
One way to get around all the blocks and have access to a variety of views is to use a VPN. What is even more "Big Brother" about these bans is that if you try to connect without a VPN they tell you there is no such web site. Not that it is banned or you are denied access for political reasons.

Currently I am posting from Taiwan ..... honest ;)

29 posted on 07/10/2022 5:29:17 PM PDT by protest1
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To: elpadre

Why do the three partitions of Poland come to mind? Also, the Molotov–Ribbentrop Pact?


30 posted on 07/10/2022 5:36:04 PM PDT by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals)
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(... media continue to echo government talking points about “Vladimir Putin’s aggression” and Russia’s “unprovoked and unjustified war on Ukraine.” ...)

Okay, I’ll bite, in the Russian alternate universe, what are these to be called, if not the terms in the quotes.

Oh right, de-Nazification.

A pox on both their houses, I would say.


31 posted on 07/10/2022 5:57:42 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (If only one of those bears Putin wrestled had won)
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To: familyop

“Russia might be forced to negotiate by the end of the year.”

Forced to negotiate? LOL who are you kidding, by the end of the year Russia will have Odessa and occupy Ukraine up to the Dnieper river. And they won’t be giving ANY of it back.


32 posted on 07/10/2022 5:59:28 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: elpadre
the secret talks are intended to find a way to provide Russia with a “face-saving exit” from the crisis.

Thanks for the laugh.

33 posted on 07/10/2022 6:06:19 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: elpadre

Russia is not the party needing to save face in this deal....


34 posted on 07/10/2022 6:09:18 PM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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To: elpadre

Russia is not even mobilized or at war in this thing. They view it as a police action... You haven’t even started to see what Russia is capable of.


35 posted on 07/10/2022 6:13:24 PM PDT by ganeemead (There is no definition of patriotism that includes stooging or siding with Nazis against Christians.)
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To: hardspunned
They need to keep the scapegoat Putin around until November.

Perhaps, or if a deal is reached, they could pretend that Biden brought Putin to his knees and agreed to pull out.

36 posted on 07/10/2022 6:28:45 PM PDT by libertylover (Democrats are as determined to kill innocent people as the Nazis.)
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To: elpadre

I hope it’s true - President Retard and his buddies will keep this war going for as,long as they possibly can 🤪


37 posted on 07/10/2022 6:33:58 PM PDT by NWFree (Somebody has to say it)
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To: NWFree

We, the people of the US are ones being punished. The Ukraine/Russia war is draining our resources, driving the cost of living sky high and weakening our economy and military. For the good of this nation, the war must end - now!! Besides, we don’t have a dog in the fight. It’s a European matter to resolve!! Cut off the faucet.


38 posted on 07/10/2022 6:44:27 PM PDT by elpadre (W )
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To: elpadre
We, the people of the US are ones being punished. The Ukraine/Russia war is draining our resources…

And the Big Guy is skimming his 10%. Not sure how much Zelensky’s cut is.

39 posted on 07/10/2022 6:47:30 PM PDT by Allegra
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To: elpadre

Yeah secret. Uh huh


40 posted on 07/10/2022 6:52:43 PM PDT by trailboss800
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