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Northrop Grumman and Raytheon win key U.S. hypersonic defense contracts
Reuters via Financial Newsletter ^ | 06/24/2022 | Mike Stone

Posted on 06/25/2022 9:54:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Edited on 06/26/2022 3:44:14 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -Raytheon Technologies Co and Northrop Grumman Corp have won U.S. contracts to continue developing missiles to intercept hypersonic weapons, the Pentagon said on Friday.

The decision means Lockheed Martin Co., the No. 1 U.S. defense contractor, which had also been competing for a contract, has been eliminated for now from the multibillion dollar progam, but could be pulled back in at a later date.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: allwarallthetime; defense; dodindustrialcomplex; followthemoney; hyprsonic; lloydaustin; mic; northrop; raytheon; ukrainecashcow; warfap; weaponsgrift

1 posted on 06/25/2022 9:54:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks BushCo, for 30 years of ‘peace dividends’.


2 posted on 06/25/2022 10:09:34 PM PDT by bakeneko
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To: SeekAndFind
I was watching a video on this subject last night. The maker of the video asserted that one of the US hypersonic missiles under development is expected to cost $160 million apiece in production. The cheapest one, developed by the Navy, will be $85 million apiece.

For comparison, a brand-new F35, the most advanced manned fighter in production, is about $110 million apiece.

3 posted on 06/25/2022 10:17:31 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: Steely Tom

Look on the bright side.

By the time they get all the kinks worked out and they mass
produce them, the price will come down to $105 million.

Heh heh heh...


4 posted on 06/25/2022 10:38:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance the flag of the U S of A, and to the REPUBLIC for which stands.)
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To: Steely Tom

You sure that video was for the interceptor missiles? Because the numbers you quote sound more like the numbers being tossed around for hypersonic strike/attack missiles.


5 posted on 06/25/2022 10:52:39 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

With faster hardware (chips, etc.), good machine language telemetry developers, good transducers and tough enough guidance parts in airframes, it would be possible.


6 posted on 06/25/2022 11:16:03 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: SeekAndFind

A hypersonic missile, by its very nature, cannot make sudden turns or course deviations, no matter what the Russians and Chinese try to claim. So, presuming you can detect and track them in time, it seems the easiest and cheapest way to defend against them would be to launch a spread of high-speed defensive missiles with warheads designed to explode and spread a cloud of shrapnel ahead of the incoming hypersonic missile. Rather than the old “hitting a bullet with a bullet” approach, just make them fly through an impenetrable cloud of debris.


7 posted on 06/25/2022 11:17:49 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As long as they don’t use the telemetry math software developers up for low wages and spit them out within a few months like one contractor was doing in the late-90s and early 2000s. Admin office employees were treated better.


8 posted on 06/25/2022 11:21:04 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: noiseman

Yeah, like these. ;D

Flak tower
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flak_tower


9 posted on 06/25/2022 11:34:01 PM PDT by familyop ("For they that sleep with dogs, shall rise with fleas" (John Webster, "The White Devil" 1612).)
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To: noiseman

Lasers


10 posted on 06/25/2022 11:39:08 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Spktyr
You sure that video was for the interceptor missiles? Because the numbers you quote sound more like the numbers being tossed around for hypersonic strike/attack missiles.

You think an interceptor would be cheaper?

11 posted on 06/25/2022 11:54:19 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: SeekAndFind

Shocked!


12 posted on 06/26/2022 12:33:31 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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To: Steely Tom

As a general rule of thumb they are - if for no other reason than that they can be far smaller, not having to have to have a range measured in hundreds of miles. Think Patriot vs your typical theater ballistic missile.


13 posted on 06/26/2022 2:57:05 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rsytheon. Now where have I heard that name before? Oh yeah. Lloyd Austin


14 posted on 06/26/2022 3:07:14 AM PDT by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos.)
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To: SeekAndFind

$120 mil? Pocket lint for the Pentagon.


15 posted on 06/26/2022 3:11:46 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: SeekAndFind

.


16 posted on 06/26/2022 4:50:40 AM PDT by sauropod (It's too bad all the people who know how to run the country are busy cutting hair.)
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To: griswold3

That’s ‘Lord Austin’ to you.


17 posted on 06/26/2022 4:52:15 AM PDT by sauropod (It's too bad all the people who know how to run the country are busy cutting hair.)
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To: Spktyr
As a general rule of thumb they are - if for no other reason than that they can be far smaller, not having to have to have a range measured in hundreds of miles. Think Patriot vs your typical theater ballistic missile.

I was thinking more in terms the the guidance system than of the propulsion side of it. If intercept is to be made inside the atmosphere, the plasma sheath that surrounds the warhead is the problem, it seems to me. I was assuming that a fairly large proportion of the cost was for the technology that can do that.

If the intercept is exo-atmospheric, the amount of energy required to get up there at high mach number makes the booster nearly as big as an ICBM. Also, if it's a "brilliant pebbles" type of plan, you would have quite a few "kill vehicles," each of which carries a bit of fuel, although no warhead is needed.

18 posted on 06/26/2022 6:27:38 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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To: bakeneko

Pumping the economy with mass murder. No way they are going to let that productive capacity be used for increasing wealth. Let underpaid foreigners manufacture our consumer goods.


19 posted on 06/26/2022 7:38:28 AM PDT by Salman (It's not a "slippery slope" if it was part of the program all along. )
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