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WILL RUSSIA SHIFT TO A WAR STRATEGY?
Sonar 21 ^ | 20 June 2022 | Larry Johnson

Posted on 06/20/2022 8:46:26 PM PDT by Kazan

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1 posted on 06/20/2022 8:46:26 PM PDT by Kazan
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To: Kazan

Zelensky and Putin are two peas in a pod.

A pair of madmen who keep looking for a way to win a war which they should be looking for a way to end.


2 posted on 06/20/2022 8:48:11 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Kazan

Article brings up a good point, which is that Putin might be getting tired of this crap and simply finish the job, and quickly.


3 posted on 06/20/2022 8:53:24 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Kazan
Russia did not destroy all communication infrastructure and networks. The internet remained operational in most parts of Ukraine. Cell phone towers and power grids were not targeted and destroyed. The lights stayed on in the cities and towns, including Lviv and Kiev. Civilian fuel depots and oil refinery plants were left largely unmolested.

Russia has systematically destroyed the civilian infrastructure in Eastern Ukraine, including electricity, communications, water, gasoline, even hospitals. Every time Ukrainians have announced the creation of new hospitals, missiles have hit them shortly thereafter. Most Eastern cities no longer have basic infrastructure.

In the West, Russia has lobbed missiles at civilian targets and infrastructure, claiming "tanks were there", even when reporters were on the scene to document damage with absolutely no tanks or other military targets destroyed.

Ukrainians in the East can still communicate--or at least some of them--thanks to satellite internet and phone systems.

Russian did indeed attempt to launch large scale cyberattacks, which apparently had help from the Chinese, but they failed because Russian claims of having the capability to turn off the lights, anywhere at anytime, was simply a bunch of BS.

That is also the reason why we have not faced any largescale blackouts or refinery disruptions in the West, because they simply lacked the capability to do it. Apparently they blew their chance with that pipeline ransomware attack some months before the actual war.

4 posted on 06/20/2022 8:55:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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which is that Putin might be getting tired of this crap and simply finish the job, and quickly.

Sure, because at nearly 40,000 dead Russians (on the low end!), and an inability to take Luhansk despite 115 days of non-stop warfare, Russia might finally get SUPER serious.

5 posted on 06/20/2022 8:57:13 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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“Sure, because at nearly 40,000 dead Russians (on the low end!), and an inability to take Luhansk despite 115 days of non-stop warfare, Russia might finally get SUPER serious.”

And what CRACKS ME UP is that you do know the truth there...

Anyway, have a good evening!


6 posted on 06/20/2022 8:58:54 PM PDT by BobL (My hatred of Necons/Globalists exceeds my love of Ukraine or any other country, other than the US)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Interesting comments. Thanks.


7 posted on 06/20/2022 9:00:09 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: Kazan

The world is being run by clowns who are playing games with the future of humanity.


8 posted on 06/20/2022 9:01:02 PM PDT by Spok (Don’t pee down my leg and tell me it’s raining.)
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And what CRACKS ME UP is that you do know the truth there...

Sure, the only way to know objective reality is to read Russian Ministry of Defense and Iranian news sources for how things are going in Ukraine.

Don't believe your lying eyes about how Russians are doing in Ukraine! No sir. Those cities taken "weeks ago" per Russian news, they are the victim of western CGI technology making it look like Russians are still dying there today. In fact, Russia conquered Ukraine in 3 days and are already taking over Poland, but western media is hiding it from the masses!

Anyway, have a good evening!

You've got to hit and run since you have a lot of homework to do to prepare to transform yourself into a Chinese Communist shill in preparation for a possible invasion of Taiwan! Good luck on that.

9 posted on 06/20/2022 9:02:06 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Kazan

Dirty RuZZian.


10 posted on 06/20/2022 9:04:17 PM PDT by SpeedyInTexas (The Only Good RuZZian is a Dead RuZZian)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Zelensky does not sound like a leader with victory within his reach. His pleas sound like a drowning man desperate for someone to throw him a life ring.

Russia lost a million people defending Stalingrad against the Nazi’s and lost 100,000 men taking Berlin but THEY DID TAKE BERLIN.

The truth will be known soon enough but Zelensky does not appear to be planning a victory parade.


11 posted on 06/20/2022 9:12:12 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: BenLurkin

> Zelensky and Putin are two peas in a pod. <

Some truth there. Zelensky is no good. And Putin is no good. But it was Putin who ordered tanks to cross an international border. So he gets the lion’s share of the blame in my book.

As you noted, everyone involved should be looking for a way to end this war. My suggestion is this. Give far east Ukraine to Russia. It’s gone anyway. But wait. There is no free lunch. Make Russia pay for those provinces. Transfer a large amount of Russian gold to Kiev.

Then everyone involved can declare a win.


12 posted on 06/20/2022 9:17:57 PM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: Kazan
WILL RUSSIA SHIFT TO A WAR STRATEGY?

Looks like those missiles are packing a little extra punch anyways.

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Good sound effects

13 posted on 06/20/2022 9:27:06 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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Really?

—> https://www.youtube.com/c/DefensePoliticsAsia


14 posted on 06/20/2022 10:06:51 PM PDT by cranked
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To: Karl Spooner

fake


15 posted on 06/20/2022 10:23:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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To: Kazan
First there is this, The Return of Industrial Warfare [On the West's capacity to produce in light of Russia-Ukraine], on June 17, then comes the pro-Russian responses like this one on June 20 by rewriting what other have said to get in the last word. Ukraine takes out a Russian tug and command post, the next day Russia MOD says sea launched Kalibr cruise missiles killed 50 Ukrainian officers. Either Russia's proxy propagandists have received their new talking points, or the blog sphere is catching on that the longer this goes on, the more likely both sides will go to real wartime economic policies. Not just Russia or Ukraine and allies, both sides.
16 posted on 06/20/2022 11:06:34 PM PDT by Widget Jr (Disobey your television.)
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To: SpeedyInTexas
Stupid aZZ. LOL! What is the point of your misspelling? It is like you have a glitch in your programming. You comment like you fell off the short bus.


17 posted on 06/20/2022 11:30:31 PM PDT by WMarshal (Neocons and leftists are the same species of vicious rat.)
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To: Kazan
Trying to win the hearts and minds may have cost Russia alot.
18 posted on 06/20/2022 11:43:59 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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NV
6/16/22

Ukraine suffering up to 1,000 casualties per day in Donbas, MP says

https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukraine-suffering-up-to-1-000-casualties-per-day-in-donbas-50250314.html


19 posted on 06/20/2022 11:52:46 PM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Kazan

Johnson is right, this is a historic moment and our geopolitical earth is shifting. The one super power hegemony days are ending and multi-polarity is being speeded up by this military conflict.

I don’t expect Putin to put the pedal to the medal though. It would be out of character for him and doesn’t appear to be necessary.

Understandably Zelensky is in a panic. Unlike many of his poorly informed supporters on Free Republic, he realizes the gig is almost up. He has run out of weapons, ammunition, fuel, and manpower and every day is just another relentless “turkey shoot” for the poor Ukrainian troops. Nothing on the horizon can change that.

His NATO backers are “ruing the day” they met him...:-) Their economies, remaining armory (and their confidence in being able to stay in power) are plummeting and they are desperately looking for an exit which up to now Zelensky has been unwilling to provide.

The real interesting question here, though, is who says Russia is going to provide one right now even if Zelesky does cave.

Once Zelensky reneged on the preliminary Istanbul agreement and then committed the Bucca false flag Russia changed their initial plans which were to de-militarize; de-nazi; demand autonomy for Donbass and neutrality for Ukraine and then depart.

Russia decided they could never trust Zelensky to uphold any agreement he signed and so they went to Plan B...to stay in Ukraine and incorporate the Russia speaking areas into Russia.

So how far do they want to go? And what arrangements would have to be made as to who controls the rump state that is left?

We live in interesting times.


20 posted on 06/21/2022 12:31:09 AM PDT by Cathi
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