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New Discoveries on Shroud of Turin Directly Contradict 1988 Carbon Dating, Put It Roughly Around Judea Some 2,000 Years Ago
https://www.westernjournal.com/ ^ | June 12, 2022 | Jack Davis

Posted on 06/12/2022 4:46:31 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

New report finds Shroud of Turin dates back to the era of the earthly ministry of Jesus, contradicting 1988 evidence dating cloth as being centuries newer.

New scientific procedures says fabric in the shroud is about 2,000 years old.

The study also analyzed traces of pollen on the shroud.

“The pollen samples gathered are from plants that are native to not just the Middle East, but specifically the area around Judea, Palestine, and Syria within that time period,” said Brian Hyland, curator at Museum of the Bible.

“There’s also pollen from the area around Constantinople. There’s a lot of pollen from Europe,” suggesting the shroud traveled from the Holy Land through [now Turkey and France] to its current home in Italy since the 16th century.

“The only single sample they took did not represent anywhere else on the cloth because it had been manipulated,” said Barrie Schwortz.

Schwortz, who is Jewish, pushed back on claims the shroud was a creation of Leonardo DaVinci.

“The Shroud has been publicly shown 100 years before da Vinci was born. He was a good artist, but he wasn’t that good.”

Schwortz said that until he saw the shroud, he was “biased against it.”

“I even said, somewhere along the line to somebody that, you know, we’ll get to Turin, we’ll give it five minutes, we’ll find the paint, we’ll come home, we’ll be done.”

There is no paint on the cloth, however.

British David Rolfe new film, “Who Can He Be,” said his team produced a 3D image from data from the fabric. “The only way that the image could’ve got on to that cloth is a miraculous one. A miracle that emanated from the body with unbelievable amounts of energy but within an infinitesimally short space of time.”

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To: wgmalabama
I have all the proof of my savior, son of God, the Christ, redeemer of my sins … already. I have a personal relationship with God. For that I am ever thankful.

Appropriate response and well said. Thanks.

101 posted on 06/12/2022 8:03:06 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: fortes fortuna juvat

My bad. Must have responded to the wrong comment. Got a little heated there.


102 posted on 06/12/2022 8:03:52 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Not much meat in that article. They need more testing to get anywhere on this debate. Not sure that is going to happen.


103 posted on 06/12/2022 8:17:24 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Typical Catholic idol worship.


104 posted on 06/12/2022 8:23:04 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: SVTCobra03

You’re completely wrong.

The physical evidence for the Shroud being a genuine artifact,
(not faked) is overwhelming.


105 posted on 06/12/2022 8:25:42 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: All
The Heavens Declare the Glory of God! . Psalm 19
106 posted on 06/12/2022 8:31:51 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (We Are JONAH)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

It’s not painted.


107 posted on 06/12/2022 8:37:45 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((the more you tighten your grip, the more star systems will slip through your fingers.) )
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To: SVTCobra03

If you think the Shroud of Turin qualifies as an "idol" in the Scriptural sense, then you need a refresher on what idol worship actually is.

108 posted on 06/12/2022 8:51:47 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Ann Archy

As a Baptist, I have known for decades that the Holy Shroud is authentic.


109 posted on 06/12/2022 9:45:55 PM PDT by alstewartfan ("She looks like she's 19 years old, sitting there like a lady with her legs crossed." Creepy Joe)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Very interesting!!


110 posted on 06/12/2022 10:32:29 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (Figures )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
The study also analyzed traces of pollen on the shroud. “The pollen samples gathered are from plants that are native to not just the Middle East, but specifically the area around Judea, Palestine, and Syria within that time period,” said Brian Hyland, curator at Museum of the Bible. “There’s also pollen from the area around Constantinople. There’s a lot of pollen from Europe,” suggesting the shroud traveled from the Holy Land through [now Turkey and France] to its current home in Italy since the 16th century.

Does NOT prove that it's 2,000 years old!

Regards,

111 posted on 06/12/2022 10:38:59 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Adder

Amen!


112 posted on 06/12/2022 10:50:12 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: j.havenfarm

Agree


113 posted on 06/12/2022 10:53:29 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: frank ballenger

Amen


114 posted on 06/12/2022 10:57:22 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: carriage_hill

Amen


115 posted on 06/12/2022 10:59:45 PM PDT by antceecee
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Today’s science contradicts last Century’s science. Go figure...


116 posted on 06/12/2022 10:59:50 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Why are you so afraid of something that affirms Christ on earth?


117 posted on 06/12/2022 11:01:42 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: carriage_hill

Perhaps God provides more for those who have no faith… you are saved…he seeks to save others.


118 posted on 06/12/2022 11:03:22 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: grey_whiskers

Interesting answer! Will need to read about the Babel fish..


119 posted on 06/12/2022 11:05:49 PM PDT by antceecee
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To: Alberta's Child

Thank you for this history


120 posted on 06/12/2022 11:07:43 PM PDT by antceecee
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