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Cases of desertion are growing among Ukrainian forces suffering significant losses in Russia's artillery onslaught, report says
Busimess Insider ^ | 6/11/22 | Bethany Dawson

Posted on 06/11/2022 9:42:40 AM PDT by JonPreston

Ukraine is now facing "massive losses" with Russia overpowering Ukraine's ammunition and artillery store.

There has been a rise in desertion as morale declines, says an intelligence report seen by The Independent.

Up to 200 Ukrainian soldiers are killed every day, an aide to President Zelenskyy told the BBC on Friday, and there are now signs that Ukrainian fighters' morale is starting to buckle.

The report, says Kim Sengupta of The Independent, describes the spike in deaths as having "a seriously demoralizing effect on Ukrainian forces as well as a very real material effect; cases of desertion are growing every week."

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1 posted on 06/11/2022 9:42:40 AM PDT by JonPreston
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To: JonPreston

War stinks.


2 posted on 06/11/2022 9:43:43 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Buh, but, if you listen to MSM and social media, this Administration and the ROW new world order and MIC pukes, Ukraine is Charlie Sheen “Winning” this thing, aren’t they?


3 posted on 06/11/2022 9:46:11 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: JonPreston

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out who would win a war of attrition.


4 posted on 06/11/2022 9:47:18 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: BenLurkin

The putinbots that post these articles don’t see this is Ukrainian government officials saying this to get sympathy and more help from the west.

Russia isn’t winning. Nobody is winning.


5 posted on 06/11/2022 9:51:08 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: JonPreston

If we give the Ukraine more arms, more Ukrainians will die.
It just prolongs the war. The east in the Ukraine is lost.


6 posted on 06/11/2022 9:55:52 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: UNGN
Ukrainian government officials saying this to get sympathy and more help from the west.

Zelensky is good at that.

7 posted on 06/11/2022 9:56:19 AM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: UNGN

Name calling makes the rest of your post meaningless.


8 posted on 06/11/2022 9:57:15 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: BenLurkin

There were plenty of desertions in the US Civil War. There were desertions in WWI from the French and the Germans. There have been desertions in every war.

I hope we don’t end up with something like The Execution of Private Slovak.

https://www.bing.com/search?q=the+execution+of+private+slovik+1974&form=ANNTH1&refig=ad100b8fafda4a6894382271def605ad&sp=1&qs=LT&pq=the+execution+of+private+&sk=PRES1&sc=8-25&cvid=ad100b8fafda4a6894382271def605ad


9 posted on 06/11/2022 9:57:56 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry. )
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To: Gay State Conservative

It was obvious from the get go that this last NATO domino, 300 miles from Moscow, was a hill Putin would die on, if necessary. The only way to expel Russia was with a direct AMERICAN effort. Ukraine realized this early on and was in serious negotiations through the Turkish mediation effort. The dirty corrupt warmongers in DC subverted the process. The longer this continues, the more blood accumulates on the hands of the scum in the White House and Capitol.


10 posted on 06/11/2022 9:59:11 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: BenLurkin

Yes, war stinks and that’s why we need to stop supporting one side.


11 posted on 06/11/2022 10:03:37 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: Gay State Conservative

You mean Ukraine, right?

They are the ones with a blank check to Gaytheon,IAI, LM, etc.etc and they have weapons to demonstrate on poor kids from Siberia and Dagestan.

Russia can’t even make weapons without German parts.

The Chinese can win a war of attrition. Russia, not so much.


12 posted on 06/11/2022 10:03:37 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: UNGN
don’t see this is Ukrainian government officials saying this to get sympathy and more help from the west

Haven't we given enough?

13 posted on 06/11/2022 10:05:45 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: UNGN

You don’t seem to even care how intensely American families are being crucified over this Bushite wet dream quagmire that “Nobody is winning”. I can tell you who is losing. When there are no Ukrainian boys left to be sacrificed will it be Ukrainian “putinbots” begging, no mas? You Bidenbots denigrate any info or reasoning that goes against your big guy’s plans.


14 posted on 06/11/2022 10:06:58 AM PDT by hardspunned (former GOP globalist stooge)
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To: Gen.Blather

How is Private Slovak relavent?


15 posted on 06/11/2022 10:09:35 AM PDT by A strike ("My country sux" is grounds for asylum?!?)
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To: EEGator

I’m sorry. I should have just said “Putin supporters” or “Putin Cheerleaders” and not Putinbots.

I don’t have a dog in this fight, but if a foreign country invaded my country, I would be cheering public execution of the invading soldiers. I guess the Ukes have more self control than me.


16 posted on 06/11/2022 10:15:36 AM PDT by UNGN
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To: Gay State Conservative
It doesn’t take a brain surgeon to figure out who would win a war of attrition.

Remind me again: Who was it who had won when the Soviets pulled out of Afghanistan in 1989?

Did the Afghans outnumber or outgun the Soviets?

Or maybe they had more fighter jets?

Regards,

17 posted on 06/11/2022 10:18:10 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

There is no way the Ukies, even with Western arms can stop this. Putin tried the blitzkrieg thing but neither his leadership, troops, equipment were up to the task and the drones and Javelins ate him up. But this is Zhukov type war now. Line up every piece of Arty you have and just keep firing. The Ukies are just getting killed. Someone in the leadership of the Ukie military had better tell Zelensky and tell him soon.


18 posted on 06/11/2022 10:21:16 AM PDT by xkaydet65 ( )
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To: JonPreston

The Russians love artillery, especially when it is massed which is probably not such a good idea in today’s warfare.


19 posted on 06/11/2022 10:23:44 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: UNGN

The whole Putinbot, Putinistas, etc, ad hominem slurs are lame and cringinly petulant.

Do you have anything in the realm of logic to offer on the Ukraine threads?


20 posted on 06/11/2022 10:32:55 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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