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Social Security only has 13 years before it goes broke
Hotair ^ | 06/10/2022 | John Sexton

Posted on 06/10/2022 9:06:06 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

A week ago we learned that the go-broke date for Social Security had been pushed back by a whole year:

The annual Social Security and Medicare trustees report released Thursday says Social Security’s trust fund will be unable to pay full benefits beginning in 2035, instead of last year’s estimate of 2034. The year before that it estimated an exhaustion date of 2035.

The projected depletion date for Medicare’s trust fund for inpatient hospital care moved back two years to 2028 from last year’s forecast of 2026…

When the Social Security trust fund is depleted the government will be able to pay 80% of scheduled benefits, the report said. Medicare will be able to pay 90% of total scheduled benefits when the fund is depleted.

So the programs won’t vanish but obviously a 20% cut in Social Security would be tough on the people who are living on that. Today Megan McArdle has a piece pointing out that this problem hasn’t exactly snuck up on us.

I have been writing about these trustees reports for more than 15 years. When I started, all these projections sounded comfortably far off — we had decades to fix the problem! Now we have 13 years. And in all that time, we have done nothing at all, except watch the date of insolvency advance.

In 2008, it was 2040, and the people likely to be worst affected — those who would be eligible to retire just as the trust fund was exhausted — were 35. Now, the people facing the most disruption are 54, much closer to retirement than to their college graduation.

The solutions to this problem are things everyone already knows about too, but they aren’t likely to happen. No one wants to touch the third rail of politics.

Pretty much everyone knows how we’re going to fix Social Security: through some combination of tax increases and benefit cuts…

Senior citizens are America’s most powerful voting bloc. Any party that makes those changes unilaterally will be slaughtered — which means neither Republicans nor Democrats will do it unilaterally, unless they happen to be the unlucky folks who get stuck holding the bag when the money actually runs out…

Furthermore, Democrats now have a much more muscular left wing than they did a decade and a half ago, and that wing wants Medicare-for-all and increased Social Security benefits,, not an austerity agenda. The Republicans, meanwhile, have sprouted an energetic populist faction that is also likely to oppose any attempt to touch benefits — or to raise taxes or allow in immigrants who might temporarily ease some of the fiscal strains on the programs.

I think she’s right on both counts. The squad and their fans will never accept any kind of cuts to these programs when what they really want is single payer health care (Medicare for all) and maybe universal basic income (Social Security for all). On the other side of the aisle, populists don’t seem eager to engage in entitlement reform either. Over in France, we just had an election where President Macron was demonized for trying to liberalize the French economy. Meanwhile his populist right-wing opponent, Marine Le Pen, ran on lowering the French retirement age to 60.

You don’t have to guess at how this would go even if some Republican were to propose reform. The White House was so eager for someone to demonize that it attributed a brief mention in Sen. Rick Scott’s 11-point-plan (which said all Americans should be asked to pay something in federal taxes) to the entire party. They got 3 Pinocchios for that but you get the idea. Democrats are on a hair trigger to attack on this issue.

It’s hard to see how we’re going to get this fixed in the current environment. I guess we’re just going to keep watching the go-broke date get closer until someone has no choice but to deal with it.



TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bankruptcy; enditall; handouts; johnsexton; ntsa; ponzischeme; socialsecurity; welfare
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To: SeekAndFind

Yawn!

Where are the articles about welfare money (or food stamps) running out? There is ALWAYS money available for the bums and leaches of society. That NEVER runs out.


41 posted on 06/11/2022 5:40:37 AM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Fauci is a murderer)
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To: Twotone

Time to go buy that cabin in the woods, make our own food, live off the grid.


42 posted on 06/11/2022 5:43:22 AM PDT by LibsRJerks
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To: laplata
The hotair article says allow in immigrants who might temporarily ease some of the fiscal strains on the programs

The Biden gang has already started that....


43 posted on 06/11/2022 5:45:48 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why arent we running out of welfare money?


44 posted on 06/11/2022 5:51:38 AM PDT by Craftmore
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To: SeekAndFind

Well I am nearing the age to draw all the monies I paid in and if I don’t get it I am going to repossess equal items belonging to the Federal Gov and sale them...


45 posted on 06/11/2022 5:54:49 AM PDT by dpetty121263
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To: dfwgator
What happened to the lockbox?

Biden's looking for the key.

46 posted on 06/11/2022 5:56:45 AM PDT by Roccus (First we beat the Nazis........Then we defeated the Soviets....... Now, we are them.w)
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To: zeestephen
At what point in time will current USA workers stop paying into Social Security, since no future USA workers are going to be dumb enough to believe that someone else is going to pay for their Social Security and Medicare?

Not something you can just do. SS is automatically pulled out of your wages by your employer, so unless your job is willing to fight FedGov fining/shutting them down, no company is going to be willing go along with that plan.
47 posted on 06/11/2022 6:15:48 AM PDT by Svartalfiar
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To: SeekAndFind

We need President Trump. He grew the economy so much that we would have expanded out of the dead end of Social Security.

But now that we have these whacko Marxists in office, we are looking at a Social Security END.

And now we get rid of these MArxist idiots. We send them into the dust bin of history where they belong.

MAGA Babay, MAGA!


48 posted on 06/11/2022 6:22:46 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: SeekAndFind

The headline is a laughable joke for dumb people.

There’s no such thing as a SS trust fund. And it won’t go broke.

SS is 100% pay as you go and is 100% paid by taxes/borrowing in the current year.

It has been so for decades.


49 posted on 06/11/2022 6:59:09 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: SeekAndFind

A failed promise from 1964.

https://www.ssa.gov/history/ssa/usa1964-2.html

Self-Supporting

“The program is designed so that contributions plus interest on the investments of the social security trust funds will be sufficient to meet all of the costs of benefits and administration, now and into the indefinite future—without any subsidy from the general funds of the Government.

Both the Congress and the Executive Branch, regardless of political party in power, have scrupulously provided in advance for full financing of all liberalizations in the program.”


50 posted on 06/11/2022 7:10:16 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (“Both oligarch and tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of their arms.” – Aristotl)
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To: Svartalfiar
Presumably, Congressional and Presidential candidates will emerge who actively support a SS and Medicare funding boycott.

When push comes to shove, 99% of future beneficiaries do not care if I get my monthly SS check and health coverage.

If I were in their shoes, I would feel the same way.

The ship of state is sinking, and it's every man for himself.

51 posted on 06/11/2022 8:15:11 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: SeekAndFind

The premise of this article is absurd on its face.

Meet the “Social Security trust fund”:

https://moneymorning.com/2017/03/31/the-social-security-trust-fund-is-just-a-stack-of-ious-in-a-west-virginia-filing-cabinet/

The “Trust Fund” started with zero dollars in it.

It has zero dollars in it now.

It will always have zero dollars in it.

Now let us discuss something useful, like the mating habits of Unicorns!


52 posted on 06/11/2022 8:19:53 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It is an election year again....time to make the old people think they are all going to be thrown off a cliff by the mean Republican


53 posted on 06/11/2022 9:48:08 AM PDT by southernindymom
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To: SeekAndFind

Well, I guess that means I have 13 more years on this earth, being in my 80s by then, and the US gov-mint can only exist if old folks like me died off, so they could continue to shell out free EVERYTHING for leftist poor, and illegals pouring over our borders. Damn, only 13 more years and then the shooting starts, to kill us old folks off so we will not be a burden on leftist designated crap has to happen.


54 posted on 06/11/2022 10:02:22 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: cgbg

Remember Algore and his rant “but what about the SS trust fund?”, etc., etc.


55 posted on 06/11/2022 10:03:21 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (Free Will. GOD gives you the choice I accept or reject Him! Choose Him. It depends on you.)
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To: RetiredArmy

Yeah—Al Gore was discussing fairy dust and Unicorns—and the stupid peons fell for it!


56 posted on 06/11/2022 10:08:58 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: SeekAndFind

maybe if they quit using it as a slush fund...


57 posted on 06/11/2022 11:27:15 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: llevrok

Or if Democrats steal the midterms we’ll have about a year before they allow a nuclear war to start


58 posted on 06/11/2022 11:34:10 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (As long as Hillary Clinton remains free, the USA will never have equal justice under the law)
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To: zeestephen

Explain to me how I can stop paying when it is deducted automatically from my paycheck before I even see the money.


59 posted on 06/11/2022 1:28:05 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (Buy JHP ammo, Level 3/4 armor and rifles. Won’t be able to for much longer, and we’re gonna need em)
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To: SeekAndFind

I remember back in the 1990s, when it was supposed to go broke by 2016.


60 posted on 06/11/2022 1:55:55 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (All Hail the MAGA King, beloved of Ultra MAGAs and Deplorables!)
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