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A new war is being prepared for after the defeat in the face of Russia
American Partisan ^ | May 26, 2022 | N.C. Scout

Posted on 05/28/2022 2:40:24 PM PDT by Vlad0

The war in Ukraine is a trompe l’oeil. Behind the appearances of the unity of NATO and its consolidation by new members, several big players run with the hare and hunt with the hounds. In reality, all those who are not blinded by their own propaganda know that their side is going to lose and is already planning other enemies on other battlefields. Washington is making the best of a bad situation and using Russian pressure to close ranks.

On the front of the stage, Nato assures that it has been strengthened by “Putin’s madness”. Ukraine, powerfully armed by the West, is leading a counter-offensive and pushing back the “invader”. At the international level, the sanctions are bearing fruit. Finland and Sweden, feeling threatened, decided to join the Atlantic Alliance. Soon the Russians will overthrow the “dictator” in the Kremlin.

This magnificent narrative is contradicted by the facts: only about a third of Western weapons reach the front. But the Ukrainian army is exhausted. Almost everywhere it is retreating and a few exploits do not change the overall picture. Two-thirds of Western weapons, especially the heaviest ones, are already available on the black market in the Balkans, particularly in Kosovo and Albania, which have become the main places for trafficking in this area. Western sanctions pose a risk of famine, not in Russia, but in the rest of the world and particularly in Africa. Turkey and Croatia are opposed to the accession of new members to NATO. It is possible to convince them, but at the price of radical political changes which the West has always opposed.

Even if Russia is wise enough to not celebrate its victory too loudly, as it did in Syria, it will be seen as the failure of the greatest military force in history, NATO. A victory without appeal, since the Atlantic Alliance was physically involved in the fight, while it stood around the battlefields in Syria. Many of Washington’s vassal states will try to break free. It is likely that their civilian leaders will remain mentally oriented toward the West, while their military leaders will turn more quickly toward Moscow and Beijing. In the years to come, the cards will be reshuffled. It will not be a matter of shifting from alignment with Washington to alignment with the new victors, but of creating a multipolar world where everyone is responsible for themselves. What is at stake is not a redefinition of zones of influence, but the end of the mentality establishing a hierarchy between peoples.

From this prospective point of view, it is fascinating to observe Western rhetoric. Many experts from the old world explain that Russia wants to rebuild its empire. They claim that it has already reconquered Ossetia and Crimea and is now attacking the Donbass. They reconstruct history with falsified quotes from President Putin. Anyone who studies contemporary Russia and checks the data knows that this is not true. The accession of Crimea to the Russian Federation and the future accession of Ossetia, Donbass and Transnistria have nothing to do with an empire, but with the reconstitution of the Russian nation, which was dismembered during the collapse of the Soviet Union.

In this context, a small part of the Western leadership is beginning to challenge the choices of their American overlord. The same phenomenon took place during the last trimester at the end of the mandate of French President Nicolas Sarkozy. The latter, seeing the human disaster he had contributed to provoke in Libya and his failure in Syria, agreed to negotiate a separate peace with Damascus. However, Washington, furious with his independence, organized his electoral defeat in favor of François Hollande. In the days following his accession to the Élysée Palace, the latter re-launched the Western war machine for a decade. It is precisely at this time that Russia committed itself to intervene in Syria. For two years it finished developing new weapons, then came to fight the jihadists armed by the West and directed by NATO from its Allied Land Command in Turkey.


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To: A strike
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Because Russia is still dangerous that is why. A massive defeat will change their attitude. We are still arming Nato as we should or do you think we should stop arming Nato since Russia is no longer a threat, which is what they are. They are the only serious threat except possibly China. They have large stock piles of nuclear weapons and that is another issue.

41 posted on 05/28/2022 4:54:47 PM PDT by amnestynone (We are asked by people who do not tolerate us to tolerate the intolerable in the name of tolerance.)
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To: DownInFlames

Listen to this interview—you have a lot to unlearn:

https://kunstler.com/podcast/kunstlercast-358-a-conversation-about-ukraine-with-larry-c-johnson/


42 posted on 05/28/2022 4:57:21 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: Skywise

“So, effectively, everything Bush, Obama and now Biden have done has damaged the US’ reputation and now irrevocably.”

Yes!

Ukraine will join the other horrific, bumbling boondoggles...
-Vietnam
-Iraq
-Afghanistan
-Libya
-Syria

However, this time the boondoggle will cause the beginning of a global shift away from our being the largest and strongest country on the planet. We will now begin to share that role with other countries and/or a group of other countries.

So sad. Great leaders, we have there.


43 posted on 05/28/2022 4:58:06 PM PDT by icclearly
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To: amnestynone

Russia is going to neutralize Ukraine and control the southern coast.

You need to start preparing yourself.

The real world is not going to bend itself to your wishes.


44 posted on 05/28/2022 4:59:31 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: entropy12

“If pajama clad Vietcong ran the mighty superpower USA out of Vietnam, with Americans escaping from roof tops in helicopters, why is this a surprise?”

You have no idea what you are talking about. The VC ceased to exist as an effective fighting force in 1968, as they were clobbered during the Tet Offensive. The VC never recovered from that, and were pretty much out of the war afterwards.


45 posted on 05/28/2022 5:01:54 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Vlad0; Pelham; Travis McGee

Well done article

Lost on numbnuts who prefer daily mail


46 posted on 05/28/2022 5:03:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (Where did all the same posters go......they cannot have all died ....could they ?)
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To: NoLibZone; BobL; woodpusher

Any of you guys going to admit any of your errors

I’ve survived every schism here last 22 years

On the prevailing side from anti amnesty to this debacle

Those proven wrong almost never fess up

A few nevertrumpers repented

He’ll they had to

I mean If levin and Shapiro can


47 posted on 05/28/2022 5:06:14 PM PDT by wardaddy (Where did all the same posters go......they cannot have all died ....could they ?)
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To: Kazan

Time to bring out the oldies but goodies from Kazan:

Close to TWO MONTHS AGO:

“4/5/2022, 11:13:42 PM · 35 of 79
Kazan to MinorityRepublican
.....and have 60,000 to 80,000
Ukrainian troops trapped in eastern Ukraine.”

Trapped? Two Months ago? LOL!


48 posted on 05/28/2022 5:06:40 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: Kazan

And heres another almost two months ago:

4/2/2022, 6:27:44 PM · 89 of 90
Kazan to Salohcin
Encircled and about to die if they don’t surrender in eastern Ukraine. That you don’t know that means you nothing about what is actually other than propaganda you’re getting.
It’s likely all going down next week.

Next week is now two months....no surrender yet...

LoL! Who is reading the propaganda?


49 posted on 05/28/2022 5:08:22 PM PDT by FreshPrince
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To: for-q-clinton

During my long since past days on active duty, the Soviets had a saying in response to the much discussed superiority of NATO arms:

“Quantity has a quality all its own.”

When you have run out of everything and the enemy hasn’t, the fact that their bullet launchers are now Moisin bolt action rifles taken out of mothballs isn’t going to make their victory any less significant.

Kissinger’s counsel at the WEF in Davos was perhaps a little too much “Real Politik” for the West to stomach.

Ukraine has to fight to retain as much of its territory as possible in the face of Russian aggression. As long as Russia is effectively a dictatorship under Putin (or someone cut from the same cloth once he’s gone), its government is going to mobilize, train, equip, deploy , and expend forces in a war of attrition until it achieves enough to claim vindication - especially in the face of combat losses, continuing sanctions, the expansion of NATO in previously neutral Scandinavia, etc.

So it comes back full circle: there will be war until someone runs out of the means to fight (Ukraine) or the will to fight (Russia).

With NATO and other western countries backing Ukraine, let’s hope it doesn’t follow another old Cold War era saying:

“NATO (Europe) will fight the Warsaw Pact (Soviets) to the very last American.” except it will be:

“NATO will fight the Russians in Ukraine until the very last Ukrainian.”

Possibly there is some narrow set of conditions for a settlement that allows peace to be reestablished without them also being so bitter that they plant the seeds of a new war.


50 posted on 05/28/2022 5:13:07 PM PDT by Captain Rhino (Determined effort today forges tomorrow.)
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To: jimwatx

You would think so. But you would be wrong.


51 posted on 05/28/2022 5:16:20 PM PDT by sport
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To: wardaddy

Please show this to Wade.

LONG VIDEO OF DPR TROOPS PUSHING INTO AVDIIVKA SUBURBS

[Dear warriors under the age of 60 or so. This is modern warfare where your enemies, big surprise, are not illiterate 7th-Century tribesman in sandals with an AK and 3 mags. This is warfare vs an enemy who also has drones, artillery, and is competing for the air space. Note the use of ground fog>> “Thank you God!” Note the use of flimsy overhead cover (garage shade) to hide from enemy drones. Note the use of a quad-rotor drone to get a tactical advantage. Note things I missed. LEARN! Do you think CW3 vs our new communist overlords and their woke minions will be any easier?]
WATCH AND LEARN.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/PTqj4qFFS917/


52 posted on 05/28/2022 5:16:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Captain Rhino

See 52


53 posted on 05/28/2022 5:18:02 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: DownInFlames

My first thoughts exactly. Are the reports regarding reactivating old T-62 tanks false and if not what does that indicate about Russian reserves. Not a very good indicator for the Russians if true. Secondly with over 40M people, Ukraine should be able to train and field more soldiers regularly. How many more able bodied men turn 17 this year?


54 posted on 05/28/2022 5:21:38 PM PDT by MSF BU
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To: Captain Rhino

“During my long since past days on active duty, the Soviets had a saying in response to the much discussed superiority of NATO arms: “Quantity has a quality all its own.””

That comment originated with Stalin. It became gospel with the Soviets.


55 posted on 05/28/2022 5:21:56 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: sergeantdave

Hope you’re right.


56 posted on 05/28/2022 5:51:29 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Captain Rhino

Yes Russia appears to be good at losing soldiers. But the difference this time is the Internet. That news is getting back and many aren’t agreeing to go to war. Apparently without a formal declaration of war only those that agree to go are being sent. Some agreed before the war (meaning they signed contracts to do whatever). Now many are refusing.


57 posted on 05/28/2022 5:54:42 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: sergeantdave
The last time I looked, the ChiComm army got its ass handed to them when it invaded Ladakh in India, the summer of 2020. The Indians sent in their Indian Army Gurkhas who wiped out the ChiComm forces and stacked their bodies like cordwood.

I remember reading about that conflict. But I don't recall the outcome. When I last read about it...it was a back and forth from what I recall.

58 posted on 05/28/2022 5:56:03 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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To: MSF BU

Ukraine has mind-boggling logistical problems.

Fuel.

Food.

Training.

Roads under their control.

The list is a lot longer than that.

Western propaganda cannot fix this.


59 posted on 05/28/2022 5:58:34 PM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: MSF BU

https://thedreizinreport.com/2022/05/26/breaking-the-line/

This video explains the use of the T-62s


60 posted on 05/28/2022 6:03:36 PM PDT by Cathi
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