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Salvador Ramos: Instagram Photos of Guns Emerges
Heavy.com ^ | May 24, 2022

Posted on 05/24/2022 4:55:39 PM PDT by KeyLargo

An Instagram page that appears connected to Uvalde gunman Salvador Ramos was deleted shortly after the mass shooting that took the lives of 15 people, including 14 elementary students.

The page showcased pictures of guns. You can see photos from the Instagram page throughout this story.


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To: Dogbert41

I agree, low income area too.


61 posted on 05/24/2022 5:58:29 PM PDT by Wayne07
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To: packagingguy

Wow. Somebody really splashed out the dough. There’s so much we don’t know now. Were those really his guns? Or did they belong to a relative and he got them out and took pictures? Whose truck was he driving? Not grandma’s, surely?

I wondered the same thing about the kid who shot all those people in the grocery store last week. Where did he get the money to but those guns and all that fancy kit? Turned out he worked at a store for four months, traded silver coins and sold his jackets on ebay to get up the money. But his stuff did add up to the prices you quoted for this kid’s.

A very good question. One thing the media does in these cases is hound LE about where the shooter got his guns, etc. Maybe we will learn the answer in time.


62 posted on 05/24/2022 6:07:38 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: newfreep

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63 posted on 05/24/2022 6:07:56 PM PDT by katykelly
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To: CatHerd

Yes, and surely you don’t work a job just to buy guns. Let’s say you work eight hours a day at a store. You have to pay for gas to get there and for lunch. Then you also at that age probably go out with friends so there’s more money.

If you look at the video of him entering the school he entered the first building beside Geraldine street. That is not the main entrance. Some kids could have been at recess but the playground is at the opposite side of the school.

So why was that door unlocked.???? I have a girl in elementary school and you always have to get buzzed in by the secretary, and right beside her office is the policeman’s office. None of the other doors are used except to exit the building; they are locked so you can only go out, not in.


64 posted on 05/24/2022 6:15:41 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: ChuckHam

BORTAC

https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Border%20Patrol%20Tactical%20Unit.pdf


65 posted on 05/24/2022 6:18:18 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: KeyLargo

Thanks for the info.


66 posted on 05/24/2022 6:19:34 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: rxsid

Good post, I have been thinking the same way. God is ridiculed more than any time that I can recall. Pray for guidance.


67 posted on 05/24/2022 6:47:59 PM PDT by phormer phrog phlyer
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To: susannah59
Schools could start by removing those stupid “Gun Free Zone” signs and replacing them with signs saying “XX (number) people on this campus are armed. You guess which XX.”

My district is one of the 110 districts in Texas that do this.

https://www.kxan.com/news/education/teachers-are-already-armed-at-one-east-texas-school-district/

68 posted on 05/24/2022 6:56:10 PM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: packagingguy

Yeah, most teens blow most of the money they make on going out, buying cool stuff they want, etc. Some parents make them pay for their own work expenses (gas, lunch, etc.) — mine did, to teach me this was part of the deal when you worked, along with those deductions taken out of your paychecks by uncle Sam. And this kid was spending money on his tranny get-ups, nail polish, makeup and all, too. And if those pictures are really of him, he wasn’t exactly living in a mansion with rich parent(s).

The Buffalo shooter was singled-mindedly getting up money for his guns and kit, was mostly a loner, and parents quite well off, so he was able to save up.

It really is a puzzle where this kid got that kind of money unless those weren’t lawfully his guns and sight, or he was dealing or something.

I have no idea about the door. At least one Freeper posted on one of these threads that middle school and high school doors are kept locked in their area schools, but not elementary school doors.


69 posted on 05/24/2022 7:05:26 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: packagingguy

The communists gave a bunch of guns to the gangs in Mexico.
Couple more to keep the gun control mantra rolling in Texas would be nothing to the DNC.
The left is playing for keeps.


70 posted on 05/24/2022 7:19:16 PM PDT by skimbell
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To: KeyLargo

Social media far more dangerous to the public than trannies with guns.


71 posted on 05/24/2022 8:02:24 PM PDT by lewislynn ((Is Fox News covering for Soros, Dominion, themselves with their continued silence on 2020?)
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To: rxsid
In my view, the single biggest reason is because a large percentage of people in this country have become immoral. And that is due, primarily, to the removal of religion from so many lives and the open season mocking of Christianity.

This.

72 posted on 05/25/2022 2:43:09 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: packagingguy

>>>I do feel faithlessness is a big part of the problem. And culture breakdown and alienation... the ‘bowling alone’ syndrome...<<<

I agree totally. Yes, bowling alone syndrome. We’ve lost “deep community”. Too much screen time. Broken homes. Absent fathers.

Now there’s smartphones, social media, texting and sexting, boys introduced to porn at the average age of nine, expectations that kids be sexually active at earlier and earlier ages or they’re losers. Way too much pressure on them during those difficult years when they’re so self-conscious, easily bruised, lack adult strategies for dealing with emotions and stress and brains are still developing.

I think the roots of the problem really go back to the mid-twentieth century when the concept of teenager was invented, peer influence supplanting family influence, and the rise of youth culture. But I don’t have time to write my thoughts about that, now.

Now that we know more:

1. Mother was a volatile drug addict, apparently no father in the picture.

2. Stutter and lisp from early childhood, apparently never received speech therapy(?), was teased and bullied more and more over this as he got older.

3. Other kids made fun of him for his family’s poverty and the clothes he wore.

4. Perhaps looking for some teen group identity or way to be niche cool, he perhaps turned to the emo/goth thing, possibly graduating to the transgender thing, but that backfired and he got teased and bullied for wearing eyeliner and called “homophobic” names.

5. School became unbearable for him, so he stopped going for long stretches at a time, became more and more a loner. This meant he could not graduate. Home life also terrible, had finally moved in with grandmother.

6. At some point, became angrier and more aggressive, more frustrated, carrying around boxing gloves and looking to get into impromptu boxing matches at the park, driving around at night shooting off his BB gun. Sent “innappropriate” texts to the young women he worked with at the fast food joint, etc. Began to dream of owning gun like the one he used yesterday.

7. Began to self harm somewhere along the way. Classmate/acquaintance noticed he had cut up his face with a knife in one instance. Cutting was an Emo fad, but in his case I think a symptom of serious psychological problems.* Face cutting is really extreme, too. Cutters usually stick to arms.

8. Perhaps influenced by the Buffalo mass shooting on the 14th, he bought the first gun on the 17th, right after he turned 18. Where the money came from for those high-end guns and fancy sight? Who knows? The uncle who recently took him hunting? Stolen from granny? We don’t know.

9. Grandmother owned the house his mother lived in and was in the process of evicting her for her drug use. Crisis in family and failure to graduate at same time, and who knows what else.

There is a lot more we still don’t know. So far, it looks like the kid had been on a path to destruction and perhaps taking others out with him for some time and was really messed up in the head.

Some people tried to help along the way. A neighbor had felt sorry for him, what with his difficulties with his mother, and tried to be a father figure to him. Maybe the uncle and grandmother tried?

He was clearly messed up in the head in a big way, but no telling if mentally ill in the sense of having an organic brain dysfunction (schizophrenia, endogenous depression, manic-depressive disorder, etc.) or just significant mental issues/personality disorder. He obviously needed mental health intervention and treatment, but such is nearly impossible to get in our broken health system. We don’t know whether anyone tried. We also don’t know whether it would have changed the outcome.

How to prevent these shootings? Reportedly, there were two armed security guards he had a firefight with outside the school, but he shot at least one and made it into the school. That picture isn’t clear yet, though, Reports also say police arrived in time to hear the gunshots inside, entered the school and shot at the shooter, but were shot themselves. Then along came the Border Control hero and took him out, sustaining a minor gunshot wound himself.

A locked door might well have prevented it. Adam Lanza shot his way through the locked doors at Sandy Hook, but there was a glass panel next to the door. Could this kid have shot his way in through another entrance?

I don’t know the answer other than armed guards and locked doors, and they don’t always work. The Buffalo shooter was wearing fancy body armor and helmet. The security guard’s bullets bounced right off him. This kid was supposedly wearing some sort of protective vest, but no armor. The Crumbly kid snuck a handgun into the school in his backpack, so locked doors would not have stopped him.

How to identify a kid who is about to commit such an atrocity and stop him first? Most of these kids show signs of mental disintegration in the years, months, weeks before. But so do many thousands of other kids who never harm anyone. Some parents willfully ignore glaring signs and even buy guns for the kid (Ethan Crumbley’s parents, for example).

The Buffalo shooter’s parents had no clue their son had bought those guns or what he was getting up to. They thought he was attending classes at the community college, etc. He was very secretive and manipulative. They seemed to know he was troubled, forbade him to play shooter video games, didn’t give him wads of money he could use to get into midchief despite their healthy income. They didn’t seem to know just how troubled he was.

Gun laws? The Crumbley kid was only 15 and could not legally own a handgun. His father bought it for him and his mother thought it was just great. These mass shooter kids do seem to favor AR15 type rifles and large magazines. Personally, I might not have a problem with raising the legal age to purchase one to 21 unless the buyer has valid military photo ID. Brains are still developing in important ways between 18 and 21. We don’t allow drinking until 21. Yes, a lot of kids and adults can be killed by a guy with a hunting rifle or handgun, or even a knife, but perhaps the cops/guards/adults a better chance to stop him while he reloads. I don’t know that much about guns and would need to learn more before ceciding.

Other than metal detectors, how to keep them from sneaking in a handgun? Clear backpacks are mandated at some schools, but a clever kid could hide one in baggy pants or a book (cut a hole in the center of the pages with a box cutter) or something.

Even if we turn our schools into impenetrable fortresses with metal detectors and armed guards, what about stores, malls, etc.? What with these shooters using fancy body armor and helmets, what to do? Apparently it takes someone very skilled to take the shooter out by hitting an unprotected spot. Or serious firepower like that Border Patrol hero’s rifle (if the photo is correct). It sounds like the hero had both skill and firepower.

Do we want our schools and stores to be like Mexican banks with guys with military rifles at the ready? Our schools fortresses?

The anti-bullying campaigns seem to come from a good place in the heart, and certainly we should discourage bullying. But It hasn’t worked, even though it may have helped some. Kids will tease and bully and ostracise other kids — they just will. As long as our kids, especially teens, are spending nearly all their waking hours in their own artificially age-segregated little worlds where the judgment and influence of their peers reigns supreme, it’s going to be a problem, along with all the destructive things kids get into because of peer pressure.


73 posted on 05/25/2022 9:38:53 AM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "All's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: packagingguy

packagingguy wrote:

“I posted this question on another thread, but will repost for interest:

This is the picture of the guns the shooter posted on Instagram:

https://twitter.com/Egyptthompson/status/1529216412354768896/photo/2

Now look at this picture:

https://danieldefense.com/ddm4-v7pro.html

Here’s a picture of the optic:

https://www.swfa.com/eotech-xps2-tactical-holosight.html?___SID=U

The Daniel Defense rifle that seems to be the one in the shooter’s photos. It costs $2,162 and the optic is $689.

Where does an 18 year old get the cash for something this expensive, especially since he also has a second AR15?”

.............................................

All true. And... he was unemployed.

He ordered it from Daniel Defense on-line. Then a couple of days later he bought a second one also online. Whose credit card did he use, Grandma’s ? We need to know. If not hers whose?

SS1


74 posted on 05/25/2022 2:50:52 PM PDT by Spitzensparkin1 (Donate often, it is our FReeping ammo. Help keep the supply train rollin', be a monthly donor. )
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