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1 posted on 05/24/2022 4:32:15 AM PDT by billorites
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$40 B could have bought about 10 of these. If we took our status as a maritime nation seriously and stopped worrying about defending our Eurasian money laundering scheme. And that would leave some money over to provide operational training for their crews.

But that is money down the drain anyway until we end the leadership rot in our own military.

2 posted on 05/24/2022 4:40:44 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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ping


3 posted on 05/24/2022 4:40:47 AM PDT by jroehl (And how we burned in the camps later - Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn - The Gulag Archipelago)
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This is what happens when you spend your time kicking out people for rejecting illegal Covid vaccines instead of focusing on readiness & training.


4 posted on 05/24/2022 4:42:15 AM PDT by for-q-clinton (Cancel Culture IS fascism...Let's start calling it that!)
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But the good news is they got top marks in unit diversity.


5 posted on 05/24/2022 4:42:41 AM PDT by RedMonqey (Fu%k the Ballot box. Now the Cartridge Box)
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The Navy tries to learn how not to run aground.

“In implementing these significant improvements, the Navy will become a more effective fighting force. ... increases ... the Navy’s lethality in combat,” the Navy said in a statement.

OK, Boomer.

6 posted on 05/24/2022 4:42:55 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (It's hard to "Believe all women" when judges say "I don't know what a woman is".)
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The investigation also highlighted specific areas for improvement in the deployment training and certification process

Training and deployment cert should be continuous process. Given the mission a submarine should always be ready for deployment. Refreshers on a specific are for a specific mission - well yeah of course. On my old boat back in the cold war we always did all of that. Course we weren't woke yet - but we started working on it way back then.

7 posted on 05/24/2022 4:43:45 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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“Prudent decision-making and adherence to required procedures in any of these three areas could have prevented the grounding.”

For someone with very little understanding of naval operations, can someone please explain what the Captain could have done to avoid hitting an uncharted sea mount?


8 posted on 05/24/2022 4:45:27 AM PDT by ops33 (SMSgt, USAF, Retired)
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My wife got a bunch of videos from our local library for me to watch, and one of them was the series “Last Ship”. I didn’t know anything about it and watched the first episode.

Don’t think I’ll watch any more of them.

Think “Love Boat” crossed with “The Omega Man” crossed with “Ice Station Zebra” with a completely woke crew (looks like every culture, color, religion, and sexual orientation is included) that is extremely competent and proficient at everything.

I guess at a fundamental level, woke-ness and competence are like oil and water to me. If you are focusing on woke-ness, you cannot be focusing on competence because woke-ness will ALWAYS trump competence.

I understand the problems the US Navy has with decreasing budgets, extended deployment cycles, and all that goes with that, but...as the Fitzerald, McCain, and Bon Homme Richard fiascos clearly indicate, the rot in our armed forces and the US Navy in particular runs deep...not to mention this.

That said, I can only take their word that it was “Unit Level Failures”, since I have never been a bubblehead and don’t know how all that plays out. And I have never, in my whole life, had any trust in the Naval Investigative Service. Their job is first and foremost to make the Navy look good and find scapegoats, not to improve processes or render justice. Never has been.

Sadly.


10 posted on 05/24/2022 4:47:54 AM PDT by rlmorel (Nolnah's Razor: Never attribute to incompetence that which is adequately explained by malice.)
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My grandson works for Electric Boat in Groton....Very proud of him. But he wants to work for Musk.


11 posted on 05/24/2022 4:49:37 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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Ah, does the pursuit of equity always result in poor outcomes because of lower standards?


12 posted on 05/24/2022 4:53:18 AM PDT by buckalfa (An old man who plants a tree whose shade he will never see is the primary component of civilization.)
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Reminds me of what happened to SSN-711 USS San Francisco back in 2005 (collision with seamount).
14 posted on 05/24/2022 5:04:02 AM PDT by Jonah Hex
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I get sending the “O”gangers packing but I fail to see how the Chief of the Boat got canned, unless he was the diving officer on watch & was way below ordered depth when they struck.
Deviating from ordered depth based on overheard talk in the control room will get you court-martialed. Whoever has the conn commands course, depth, & speed, it is NOT the diving officer. The CO, XO, & Navigator can take the conn at any time from their junior by simply issuing a conning (course, speed,rudder, depth, etc.) order while on or about the bridge.


16 posted on 05/24/2022 5:09:38 AM PDT by ClockDoc ( - Let the churches attend to the poor and the Gov. attend to our enemies.)
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The scourge of the seas US Navy was ramming supertankers, now they’re having trouble finding the bottom of the ocean.


18 posted on 05/24/2022 5:19:04 AM PDT by Mashood
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[“In implementing these significant improvements, the Navy will become a more effective fighting force. Given the inherently dangerous nature of Naval operations, we cannot become a risk-averse or zero-defect organization, but prioritizing safety will engender a culture of greater attention to detail in operational tasks, enhanced procedural compliance, and a questioning attitude that constantly seeks improvement – which increases the readiness of our forces and the Navy’s lethality in combat,” the Navy said in a statement.]

Now that’s a word salad. Saltines? Fresh cracked pepper?


20 posted on 05/24/2022 5:21:54 AM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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26 posted on 05/24/2022 6:10:29 AM PDT by MrBambaLaMamba (The only good commie is one that's dead - Country Joe McDonald)
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How many women on board, and what was their role/duty stations at the time of the incident?


28 posted on 05/24/2022 6:15:29 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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“accumulation of unit-level errors”

In other words, they are all incompetent. We are in trouble.


31 posted on 05/24/2022 6:33:09 AM PDT by EastTexasTraveler
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The USS Connecticut (SSN 22) grounded on an uncharted seamount “while operating submerged in a poorly surveyed area in international waters in the Indo-Pacific region”

I would think it is the Navy top brass at fault for failing to have proper charts.


36 posted on 05/24/2022 8:50:04 AM PDT by minnesota_bound (Need more money to buy everything now)
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