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Russian Atrocities Prompt Bipartisan Push to Expand U.S. War Crimes Law
The New York Times ^ | 05/16/2022 | Charlie Savage

Posted on 05/18/2022 11:27:03 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007

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To: Ultra Sonic 007

there is no limit to the idiocy of the US Congress.............


21 posted on 05/18/2022 11:46:36 AM PDT by wny ( )
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To: ought-six

Well, at least this time the dying isn’t unilateral, since I doubt it could have been avoided.


22 posted on 05/18/2022 11:46:58 AM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: NorseViking

“Was anyone convicted and sent to prison? I mean Afghan prison.”

Did anyone bring charges in a recognized court with jurisdiction? No. So, absent that, how the hell can one be convicted, much less sent to prison?


23 posted on 05/18/2022 11:48:03 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: ought-six

Why it didn’t take place?


24 posted on 05/18/2022 11:49:56 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: 2banana

UN confirmed 3,404 civilians had been killed in the conflict. Of the civilian deaths, 312 were foreigners: 298 passengers and crew of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, 11 Russian journalists, an Italian journalist, one Russian civilian killed in cross-border shelling and a Lithuanian diplomat.

Most of these are not due to “Ukrainian shelling since 2014”.

That is a lie.

There were deaths on both sides and the bulk of deaths were in 2014-2015


25 posted on 05/18/2022 11:50:01 AM PDT by Cronos
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To: ought-six

The Pentagon lied about what the drone strike had actually hit until video evidence emerged showing otherwise. At that point, the moral value of “admitting it” doesn’t really amount to much.


26 posted on 05/18/2022 11:51:19 AM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: NorseViking

“Why it didn’t take place?”

A trial? Never heard that one did. Link please.


27 posted on 05/18/2022 11:55:25 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: NorseViking

Just “say no.” This is a recipe for a giant mess.

We send boys all over the world, give them just a little instruction and support. Then, civilians who were safe abed when the inevitable war events happen, hold them accountable.


28 posted on 05/18/2022 11:57:42 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: ought-six; NorseViking
Biden drone attack killed innocent AID WORKER and 7 children in Kabul

Since the Nuremberg Trials of those Nazis that Committed War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity, your Nazi excuse of "I Was Only Following Orders" is no longer accepted, and you will be Prosecuted no matter how long it takes or whom ultimately Prosecutes your Crime.

29 posted on 05/18/2022 12:06:00 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

Americans who burned to death about 140,000 Japanese in one night and killed 130,000 Germans in Dresden enjoyed many years of US veteran benefits.

Their supreme commander FDR has a monument in our nation’s capital and is honored on every dime minted.


30 posted on 05/18/2022 12:07:25 PM PDT by Brian Griffin
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

nope! nope! nope!

‘they’ can’t touch ‘us’, so ‘we’ make the rules to touch ‘them’???!!

somebody needs a nice big chocolate exlax bar!!


31 posted on 05/18/2022 12:07:36 PM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: ought-six; Ultra Sonic 007
We admitted it.

Fine, you and everyone involved still get punished for it.

32 posted on 05/18/2022 12:09:55 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

This is just stupid.

I’m not supporting Russia, at all. Nor any tyrant.

But a crime in another country between citizens of other countries is none of the USA’s business.

Should the USA also start handing out speeding tickets in Paris?

Maybe giving tickets to 18 years drinking in England?

It’s completely asinine and presumptuous to deign to think the USA (or any other country) has the right to police what goes on in another country, between citizens of other countries.


33 posted on 05/18/2022 12:12:48 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

In the end it will be jut another case of the US sticking it’s nose in business that it doesn’t belong in.

And we will pay biions for the honor.


34 posted on 05/18/2022 12:25:52 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: Navy Patriot

The crazy thing is that, per this same NY Times article, referencing the draft bill: the planned expansion of the 1996 War Crimes Act would ALSO eliminate any statute of limitations on war crimes.


35 posted on 05/18/2022 12:26:21 PM PDT by Ultra Sonic 007 (There is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: Navy Patriot

“Since the Nuremberg Trials of those Nazis that Committed War Crimes and Crimes Against Humanity, your Nazi excuse of “I Was Only Following Orders” is no longer accepted, and you will be Prosecuted no matter how long it takes or whom ultimately Prosecutes your Crime.”

WTF are you babbling about? MY “Nazi excuse?”

Go back to your basement and assemble your Revell plastic boats, and don’t inhale the glue this time.


36 posted on 05/18/2022 12:27:52 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Navy Patriot

“Fine, you and everyone involved still get punished for it.”

I assume by your using the word “you,” that you are using that in the generic sense. Or, do you think I was involved in that operation? Is that why you called me a Nazi on the previous post?


37 posted on 05/18/2022 12:30:36 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: Jewbacca
It’s completely asinine and presumptuous to deign to think the USA (or any other country) has the right to police what goes on in another country, between citizens of other countries.

It used to be. But the new administration says that everyone who lives outside the border and wants to come in may do so. And when they cross the border they are American. So this merely extends jurisdiction to those who will become Americans once they cross the border. And since everyone wants to come to America it follows that for any crime between two soon to be Americans, American courts should have jurisdiction.

(Yes, this is idiotic nonsense. But I will guarantee that if you ran this line of reasoning past all the Democrats in congress, the majority would agree that the logic is just fine.)

38 posted on 05/18/2022 12:31:45 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: Ultra Sonic 007

It has yet to be determined whether the “mass graves” (if they exist) were the result of Russian atrocities or the Ukrainians using the fog of war to eliminate their internal enemies. Or both.


39 posted on 05/18/2022 12:38:04 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Jewbacca
I have a different take...

What would happen, 10 years from now if a Russian emigrates to the U.S. and lies on his visa application. Then, the U.S. is able to document that this Russian was, in fact, a war criminal who murdered innocent civilians in the Ukrainian war.

Under current U.S. law, the only punishment is deportation back to Russia.

IMHO the punishment for lying on a visa application should be equal to the crime being lied about. Lie about the war crime of murdering civilians should put them in a supermax for about 50 years.

Here's a NY Times link where a guard from a German concentration was deported to Germany in February 2021.

Tennessee Man Who Served as Nazi Camp Guard Is Deported to Germany

40 posted on 05/18/2022 1:07:26 PM PDT by FtrPilot
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