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Sailors stuck with expensive housing options after Navy shuts down their barracks
Task & Purpose ^ | 5/16/2022 | Task & Purpose

Posted on 05/16/2022 2:49:47 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan

Junior enlisted sailors assigned to Naval Air Station Key West, Florida, are looking at whether to move into costly trailers or off-base apartments now that the base has closed a barracks for renovations and repair.

Military.com reporter Konstantin Toropin first reported on the closure of the barracks for about 60 junior enlisted sailors, which has prompted some people to post on social media that the existing lack of affordable housing at and around Naval Air Station Key West is only getting worse.

Naval Air Station Key West is demolishing one of its two unaccompanied housing buildings and conducting $11 million of maintenance on the other building for sailors in the paygrades of E-1 to E-3 as well as E-4 sailors with fewer than four years of service, said Arwen FitzGerald, a spokeswoman for Navy Region Southeast. About 19 of the 60 displaced sailors are still looking for housing.

“The CO [commanding officer] has confirmed her commitment to not displace any sailor from the affected UH [unaccompanied housing] building until they have appropriate accommodations,” FitzGerald told Task & Purpose.

One solution that is available to the sailors is living in two-bedroom rental trailers, which currently cost up to $3,937 per month. The rent will increase to up to $4,402 starting in October. Single E-3 sailors receive a housing allowance of $2,364 per month.

FitzGerald explained that the monthly rent would be divided between the two sailors living in the trailers. That means each would pay up to $2,200 per month – slightly less than their Basic Allowance for Housing.

The 36 trailers were originally offered through the base’s Morale, Welfare and Recreation program as vacation rentals that are now available to sailors while their barracks are being renovated, FitzGerald told Task & Purpose on Monday. The trailers are brand new and feature many amenities that the barracks did not have, including a full kitchen, and a living area; and the sailors would not have to pay for utilities.

However, the trailers are located about 8 miles from where sailors work, and that can cause transportation problems, said a sailor assigned to Naval Air Station Key West, who asked not to be identified to avoid possible retaliation.

Another issue with using the trailers is the Navy is expecting its most junior sailors who have not spent much time at Naval Air Station Key West to go out and find roommates, the sailor said.

“In a barracks, the Navy assigns you a roommate,” the sailor told Task & Purpose. “In this trailer situation, the Navy expects for most inexperienced sailors to ‘figure it out.’ There’s just a myriad of issues here and Band-Aid solutions like vacation rentals are too short-sighted.”

FitzGerald said unaccompanied sailors also have the option of renting houses on base or finding off-base apartments.

Naval Air Station Key West has privatized housing, but sailors who want to rent homes must wait up to four months right now because it is the time of year when troops and their families get orders to move to new bases, she said. For unaccompanied sailors, the base offers unfurnished three-bedroom homes that cost between $2,950 to $3,750 per month, depending on the location.

“You don’t have to live in Key West proper,” FitzGerald said. “There’s plenty of islands that if you go North that do offer cheaper [rents] if you want to have an apartment all to yourself. But if you want to live in Key West proper, most people have a roommate. It’s just the skyrocketing cost of living anywhere in America now. It’s getting expensive.”

But finding an island in the Florida Keys with cheaper rents could involve living an hour’s commute away from Naval Air Station Key West, said the sailor, who talked to Task & Purpose.

The housing situation is especially difficult for sailors assigned to the base who are living away from their families – who are already waiting to rent homes on base, the sailor said.

“I got a sailor on my couch who has been here for two weeks without a home, [he] has until the 17th of June to move into base housing,” the sailor said. “Then he will bring his wife and 1-year -old back down here. He’s thinking about getting an Airbnb because he misses his family and it’s his only option.”

Rep. Carlos Antonio Gimenez, a Republican Congressman whose district includes Key West, said that his office is talking to officials at the base about the housing issue. “We all share a commitment to ensuring our service members have access to quality and affordable housing,” Gimenez said in a statement to Task & Purpose.

Some commenters on social media have pointed out that the Naval Air Station Key West has long had a lack of affordable housing for enlisted sailors. One Navy veteran told Task & Purpose that he lived in a tent on the base’s campground for roughly a week in January 2019 because he could not find an apartment within his budget.

“The single E-4 BAH [Basic Allowance for Housing] rates are barely enough to get a livable place in town down there if you’re lucky and the housing waitlist was at least a couple of months long,” said the veteran, who asked not to be identified to avoid any recriminations from the Navy.

The Naval Air Station Key West housing situation is just the latest example of sailors facing untenable living conditions. In February, Navy Times revealed that sailors at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Bethesda, Maryland, had gone without hot water in their barracks for years, forcing the Navy to finally fix the problems.

More recently, the Navy began moving sailors off the aircraft carrier USS George Washington, where several crew members have died by suicide as the ship has undergone a lengthy renovation. But the Navy only acted after its top enlisted sailor told the George Washington’s crew that there was nothing anyone could do to make the ship more habitable.

“What you’re not doing is sleeping in a foxhole like a Marine might be doing,” Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy Russell Smith told sailors aboard the George Washington on April 22. “What you are doing is going home at night, most nights, unlike the [deployed aircraft carrier] Harry S Truman. So, when you’re here, some of it is that you have some more stability in that you’re here. The downside is some of the shit that you have to go through logistically will drive you crazy.”


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
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1 posted on 05/16/2022 2:49:47 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Don’t worry though, the illegals are covered.


2 posted on 05/16/2022 2:54:48 PM PDT by pfflier
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Why did they shut down the barracks? This makes no sense.


3 posted on 05/16/2022 2:56:01 PM PDT by BipolarBob ("Money can't buy happiness but it can buy a huge yacht that sails right next to it." - DavidLRoth)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Isn’t there an extended stay hotel the Navy could rent out?


4 posted on 05/16/2022 2:59:51 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Quit sending money to Ukraine and spend it on our own people.


5 posted on 05/16/2022 3:02:43 PM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Trailers for sale or rent… rooms to let for .50 cent


6 posted on 05/16/2022 3:02:47 PM PDT by Track9 (You are far too inquisitive not to be seduced…)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

I when through this same sort of housing crap, so I know the drill.
McClellan AFB 1977-1978.
Luckily that base bordered a Ghetto so I moved there.
Most thugs don’t Fuk with the military.
Unlike Liberals, even Thugs know where their
freedoms come from.


7 posted on 05/16/2022 3:02:53 PM PDT by rellic
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To: dforest

There’s a novel idea 💡


8 posted on 05/16/2022 3:03:27 PM PDT by mrmeyer (You can't conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him. Robert Heinlein)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Nothing is too good for our soldiers and sailors, so that’s exactly what the system gives them.


9 posted on 05/16/2022 3:04:36 PM PDT by rangerX (Sua Sponte)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Key West? These sailors need to buy boats and put their housing allowance toward payments and docking fees.


10 posted on 05/16/2022 3:04:56 PM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Right Wing Vegan
E-1 to E-3, with E-4's under 3 years.

Because NCO's and officers are above them and all who have served knows, s#!t rolls downhill!

11 posted on 05/16/2022 3:05:53 PM PDT by airborne (Thank you Rush for helping me find FreeRepublic! )
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To: Right Wing Vegan

When I was an E-2 and living in the barracks, the only Chow Hall on base was closed for renovations for 9 months.

They decided to give us partial rations at $4.50 per day. We had no refrigerators and one microwave for 80 people on our barracks floor.

Most of us had no car (early 80s military norm), so we were left eating at the bowling alley or rec center.

I still can’t believe leadership let that happen.


12 posted on 05/16/2022 3:05:57 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (My boss wants me to sign up for a 401K. No way I'm running that far! )
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To: rangerX

Well said.


13 posted on 05/16/2022 3:06:26 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: Right Wing Vegan

2 sailors in a trailer off base covered by Uncle Sam?

Quit yer bitchin’


14 posted on 05/16/2022 3:08:05 PM PDT by eyedigress (Trump is my President! )
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Nothing new here. When my Destroyer returned to San Diego from Yokosuka in 1970 we were sent to dry dock at Long Beach. The Navy refused to give Basic Allowance for Quarters to E-4s and below, saying we had to live on the ship. Right. As it’s being sandblasted and air hoses and cables everywhere.

10 of us rented an apartment, near Compton, and commuted for 3 months. The Navy knew all this but didn’t give a shyt. We weren’t lifers so f*** us. Sure made us want to re-up. Lol.


15 posted on 05/16/2022 3:08:22 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: Right Wing Vegan
The DoD has a responsibility to either provide housing for those in uniform or the $$$ needed to procure private housing. But having dodged the draft himself and failing to return salutes of Airmen and Marines he regularly encounters makes clear that he holds our Armed Forces in contempt.

So these sailors should just suck it up!

16 posted on 05/16/2022 3:14:27 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Covid Is All About Mail In Ballots)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

Sailors stuck with expensive housing options after Navy shuts down their barracks

Admirals need new expensive toys - the money gotta come from somewhere may as well be from the expendable swabbies budget.


17 posted on 05/16/2022 3:14:47 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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I was stationed at Hahn AB my first two years in Germany. First year was in the BOQ (Bachelor Officers Quarters), it was ok, I guess.

First chance I got, I moved off base. Found a small apartment 12 miles off base, in a town called Traben-Trarbach. I think I broke even on my housing allowance.

Two years later, I was transferred to Spangdahlem, but didn't move. My now 28 mile commute took about 40 minutes, but it was worth it. The drive took me through the Urziger Wurzgarten vineyards.

18 posted on 05/16/2022 3:17:23 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Right Wing Vegan

This is terrible.


19 posted on 05/16/2022 3:20:55 PM PDT by Dr. Scarpetta ( )
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To: PIF
The military could eliminate half of the General/Flag Officer billets, and not miss a beat...might even become more efficient.

Lest anyone thinks I have it in for generals, I was proud to serve with quite a few, such as LTG Jay Garner, BG Johnie Forte, BG Archie Cannon, MG Jim Cercy. These men were all leaders, and I learned a lot from them. Not a Courtney Massengale in the bunch, they were all Sam Damons.

20 posted on 05/16/2022 3:22:13 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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