Posted on 05/07/2022 8:43:01 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot
The solicitation to commit treason came to Oleksandr Vilkul on the second day of the war, in a phone call from an old colleague.
Mr. Vilkul, the scion of a powerful political family in southeastern Ukraine that was long seen as harboring pro-Russian views, took the call as Russian troops were advancing to within a few miles of his hometown, Kryvyi Rih.
“He said, ‘Oleksandr Yurivich, you are looking at the map, you see the situation is predetermined,’” Mr. Vilkul said, recalling the conversation with a fellow minister in a former, pro-Russian Ukrainian government.
“Sign an agreement of friendship, cooperation and defense with Russia and they will have good relations with you,” the former colleague said. “You will be a big person in the new Ukraine.”
The offer failed spectacularly. Once war had begun, Mr. Vilkul said, the gray area seeped out of Ukrainian politics for him. Missiles striking his hometown made the choice obvious: He would fight back.
“I responded with profanity,” Mr. Vilkul said in an interview.
(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...
Raping Ukrainian women and looting their washing machines disrupts the globalists’ plans how, exactly?
So NOW you believe everything the globalist gaslight press tells you?
NYT - wow , skankiest of the scum.
You’ve soiled yourself, take time away from computer to go clean up and find more honest sources.
It’s an interview with an actual person. I’m sure a little bit got lost in translation, but I don’t think even the slimes would make a story like that up completely out of whole cloth. Also, russia’s 1-week “special military operation” enters its 11th week, so obviously something went tits up.
Except it is a civil war. It started as a civil war, Donetsk broke away, as did Lugansk. They asked for Russian help. Like the French helping us in 1770s, the Russians are intervening in a civil war.
Only that wasn't a civil war either! It was a revolutionary war of independence, and the French weren't looking to invade our lands and annex our territory.
The comparison is ludicrous!
Regards,
I’m not inclined to believe anything YOU tell me.
“They were shot per Zelinsky’s orders.”
Sic semper proditores
Possibly the dumbest and craziest thing I’ve seen online in awhile. Congrats.
The vast majority of Ukes dying over there have nothing to do with that bullsnot you just brought up.
As soon as you get the other side to say “somehow” or just not respond to your question, that’s when you’ve won the argument.
Ah yes, that famous soviet ‘brotherly assistance’. Just like Hungary 1956, Czechoslovakia 1968, Afghanistan 1979, etc. etc.
“Except that that was a civil war, while this is a war between two sovereign nations.”
That all depended on who you asked. To the North, it was a civil war (or rebellion more likely), to the South, they had declared their independence and were a sovereign state as much as the 13 colonies were sovereign after declaring independence from Britain.
And there you are, repeating all the bullsnot obambam said when he betrayed the Ukes the first time they were invaded. You uphold betrayal, nuclear proliferation, and weakness projection as if they are some kind of virtues.
But that doesn't matter anymore. What the war originally was is a moot point. It's now a "total war," involving many of the world's great powers. And it might end up killing us all.
the Russians are intervening in a civil war.
***Bullsnot. They invaded directly towards Kiev. They took Crimea. This war is about oil/gas/ports.
2 years before 2014, there was NO ethnic problems in the region. But there WAS oil & gas reserves to be exploited. You seem to have completely forgotten that in 2012 oil & gas reserves were being explored by Exxon and western oil companies. This war is about oil & gas reserves. The last time we had an oppressive regime invade their neighbor over oil & gas, an international coalition kicked his ass back to Iraq.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts
also:
Why Russia wants to invade Ukraine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If61baWF4GE
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4050958/posts
The Russians weren’t even interested in eastern Ukraine until oil was found there. Their interest is simply in raping that country. Russia gets 60% of its revenues from oil exports. Europe gets 40% of their oil from Russia.
In 2012 massive oil and gas reserves were found in Crimea. Crimea signed a $10 billion exploration contracts with Shell and Chevron to develop the new found oil and gas fields. These oil and gas products would compete in Europe with Russia’s oil and gas, reducing Russia’s oil revenues, which we recall amount to 60% of their total GDP. Russia annexed Crimea in 2014, cancelling the contracts with Shell and Chevron.
But Ukraine still had massive reserves in, you guessed it, Donetsk and Luhansk, and other areas East of the Dnieper River. In 2019, Energy Secretary Rick Perry visited Ukraine, and soon after Ukraine awarded exploration contracts to a consortium of U.S. oil companies. Again, these oil reserves would compete in Europe with Russian oil, so Putin is invading Ukraine to shut down this latest attempt to extract Ukrainian oil and sell it in competition with Russian oil.
This explanation makes more sense to me than the “Putin feels threatened by NATO expansion” excuses for the invasion.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4044221/posts?page=1#1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CmdSzVFSKc
If the Ukes allow some small region in the west to be its own republic, but the OIL belongs to Ukraine, do ya think Pootypoot would allow that? Nope.
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Seethe harder.
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