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Intelligence provided by the U.S. helped Ukrainians sink Russian ship Moskva
CBS ^ | May 5, 2022 | Eleanor Watson, David Martin

Posted on 05/05/2022 7:48:39 PM PDT by Doofer

Intelligence provided by the U.S. helped the Ukrainians sink the Russian Moskva in April, according to a senior defense official. The U.S. shared the location of the Moskva in the Black Sea with the Ukrainians but had no role in the decision to strike it, the official said.

Without providing specifics, Pentagon spokesman John Kirby told reporters Thursday that the U.S. has been providing Ukraine useful battlefield intelligence throughout the war as Ukraine defends itself – but Kirby said the Pentagon does not provide intelligence on the location of senior military leaders on the battlefield or participate in the targeting decisions of the Ukrainian military.

"Ukraine combines information that we and other partners provide with the intelligence that they themselves are gathering on the battlefield, and then they make their own decisions and take their own actions," Kirby said. FILE PHOTO: A Russian missile cruiser "Moskva" is anchored near Mumbai The Russian guided missile cruiser "Moskva," flagship of Russia's Black Sea Fleet, is seen anchored near Mumbai, India in a May 21, 2003 file photo. Roy Madhur/REUTERS

Ukrainian forces struck the Moskva with two Neptune anti-ship missiles. The strike caused a large fire and the eventual sinking of the ship on April 14.

Kirby said in April that the cruiser was about 600 feet long and had a crew of roughly 500 sailors. The Pentagon assessed that at least some of the crewmembers evacuated to other Russian naval ships but it's unclear how many Russians suffered casualties.

The sinking of the Moskva was another embarrassment for Russian forces, who have shown an inability so far to reach their goals in the war in Ukraine. More than 70 days into the invasion, the Russian progress is still described by the Pentagon as slow, incremental, and uneven.

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KEYWORDS: 1moretime; moskva; putlims; ukraine
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To: Doofer

A wise man knows everything that he says, and doesn’t say everything that he knows. A fool says everything that he knows, and doesn’t know everything that he says.—Yiddish saying


41 posted on 05/06/2022 1:24:14 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (January 6, worst assault on democracy since the Reichstag Fire)
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To: Born in 1950

The elites have come to see the gains that can be effected with mutually assured destruction.

No more mean tweets! And we’ll be in NORAD while the rest of you suckers are reduced to ash!


42 posted on 05/06/2022 1:25:45 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (January 6, worst assault on democracy since the Reichstag Fire)
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To: cranked

I wouldn’t go to the nuke chatter on this.

But I would suggest that if the Russians went to the plans list....this would call for a US general (either in Europe or US) to be targeted as an example of what they can do. News media doesn’t care how this twists the whole situation.


43 posted on 05/06/2022 1:29:37 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: WoofDog123

“for those confused by this, the administration wants to start world war 3. it will solve their midterm problem if they make it bad enough.”

I hear ya if the damn Ukies and our warmongering neo-con rat bastard warmongers can annoy Putin enough. Then he nukes London, Birmingham and Buckingham Palace. He rids the world of a few reptilian bloodlines.

Dems plot this so that we have universal drop boxes and mail in ballots in every state in Nov 2022 PLUS you can vote at home or nursing home via your laptop. Then we will have Dem Dead (enough) Presidents forever in the White House and similar for Congress.

Also we get rid of that disinformation broad at DHS who sings Mary Poppins and show tunes


44 posted on 05/06/2022 1:45:26 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: BiglyCommentary

You are intruding into a Q-Tard struggle session. They show signs of having Cov-jabbed messed up minds. They are still on their unrequited love jag for Pooty Toot, the bare chested Pooty Toot on horseback all those years ago.


45 posted on 05/06/2022 1:52:10 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: Doofer

Been nice knowing ya boys

Cue the Dr Strangelove ending...
https://youtube.com/watch?v=s4VlruVG81w


46 posted on 05/06/2022 2:13:15 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: Doofer
Intelligence provided by the U.S. helped the Ukrainians sink the Russian Moskva…

I’m sure the Russians won’t mind that.

47 posted on 05/06/2022 3:03:35 AM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Doofer

Loose lips...sink ships. I’d rather Herald about this years after the fact.


48 posted on 05/06/2022 4:17:36 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Doofer

Get target geo coordinates.

Load coordinates into missile GPS system.

Push launch button.

Your tax dollars at work !


49 posted on 05/06/2022 5:01:03 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: Doofer

WHAT?

That Senior US Official needs to keep his mouth shut.


50 posted on 05/06/2022 5:01:55 AM PDT by Candor7 (ObamaFascism:https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html)
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To: WoofDog123

The Chinese also know that there’s a possibility that we cause an incident with them as well.


51 posted on 05/06/2022 5:36:16 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90

yes. my take is the other global powers are going to have to figure out how to manage having a nuclear power as aggressive as the US. I don’t know how or if they do it in the short-term.


52 posted on 05/06/2022 5:59:27 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Gnome1949
What would be left to govern in America after a nuclear exchange?

Anyone that thinks their bunker is going to save them is wrong. Unless they can stay down there for several generations. Three days after the lights go out all the nuclear power plants will begin to melt down. Image a couple hundred Fukushima’d only worse since no body will be there to contain them. Hell on Earth indeed.

53 posted on 05/06/2022 6:23:00 AM PDT by jpsb
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To: SaveFerris

This leak smells like Schiff


54 posted on 05/06/2022 6:37:41 AM PDT by digger48
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To: rmlew

I’m on the side of the USA. Join me, and be on the correct side.


55 posted on 05/06/2022 6:49:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: Doofer

Maybe. Maybe not but this is Biden making false claims again. Trying to be a big shot. There are serious issues ongoing and we have a raving lunatic in the WH.


56 posted on 05/06/2022 7:12:39 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

a real quandry for russia.

they know we want them to retaliate. we would just use that to justify substantial further escalation. the issue is that Russia does not want a nuclear exchange.

so if they ever decide to actually act, what do they do? do they go it alone? is china involved?

what a nightmare mess.


57 posted on 05/06/2022 7:16:39 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: cranked

“I hope everyone involved it slapping each others backs and pounding their chest continue to do so if that day comes Russian nukes are heading this way, kkthx. Dumb mofos.”

Preach.

I sure as heck didn’t vote for this fiasco! “Ukraine First!” now on Hannity, Kilmead,... propaganda works. For morons.


58 posted on 05/06/2022 9:33:40 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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"My government has placed the Admiral Makarov on the sea floor
temporarily, for safekeeping. Next to the Moskva. You understand."

59 posted on 05/06/2022 10:57:31 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (Enjoy the parade of Putlim Soviet c!rclejerkers lining up for the Tedlim-style putsch)
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To: Doofer

DeepState/Biden, STFU!


60 posted on 05/06/2022 7:46:56 PM PDT by Chgogal (Whatever Biden decides to do, do the opposite.)
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