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Russia turned off the tap. Poland is ready to live without Russian gas
Money.pl ^ | 27 April 2022 | Michael Krawiel

Posted on 04/27/2022 8:37:02 PM PDT by Cronos

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To: Long Jon No Silver; buwaya

Buwayas post was about Russia, the state, not the Russian people.

Russia as a state has failed its people since the late 1800s.

Nicky set up the Duma after the disastrous 1905 Russo Japanese war. Btw, the logistical and strategic failures then are exactly the ones repeated now in Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

Then, in 1908, nicky felt strong enough to suspend the Duma.

Russia in the 1990s was opening up, but then Putin came.

Instead of encouraging the brainpower of his people and their industriousness, Putin exploited them.

He did the same as Chavez did, but to a potentially greater people.

Putin failed Russia


41 posted on 04/27/2022 9:23:11 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

[You have to admire Putin’s brilliant sense of planning

Let’s attack with nice heavy tanks during spring thaw along back roads which can be blocked.

Or blown up.

Forcing them to get stuck in the mud.]


Basically, Putin was expecting an Anschluss, with flag-waving Ukies lining the parade route. What he got is closer to the reception the Germans got during their invasion of Poland. At the current rate, the Russians may get the send-off provided by the Poles during the Miracle on the Vistula.


42 posted on 04/27/2022 9:23:57 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room.)
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To: Cronos

My gut says Germany will approve Nord 2...and pay in roubles


43 posted on 04/27/2022 9:25:04 PM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: Long Jon No Silver

I have hired Russians. Russians, as individuals, aren’t the problem. A Russian society is quite another matter - as, for instance, is an Arab society. These places, these societies, are unreformable, even if they are drenched in money.

They will underperform in every way, due to the social dynamics of their people. This is why none of these places produces much that anyone else would want other than commodities.

Russia might have had a chance, once, back in 1914, but way too much has happened since. They were shattered, and that moment cannot be recreated. As for the Arabs, that moment passed over a thousand years ago.


44 posted on 04/27/2022 9:33:57 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Gazprom is getting squeezed by Putin


45 posted on 04/27/2022 9:45:25 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Zhang Fei
Russian parade
46 posted on 04/27/2022 9:46:51 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: buwaya

Nonsense. Your own country is kept afloat by EU. Have you forgotten 2012. Look at your own backyard before saying other countries suck. They may suck, but it’s not the place of someone who lives in an EU ghetto to say it


47 posted on 04/27/2022 9:47:33 PM PDT by Long Jon No Silver
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To: Cronos
I read somewhere that Winters get cold in Poland. Hey, they get even colder in Russia, or so I read. Save the firewood, it will be needed.
48 posted on 04/27/2022 9:48:27 PM PDT by Radix (His Fraudulency Joe Biden…….)
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To: Cronos

Russia can have their hissy fit and cause some pain to Poland and Bulgaria, but in the long term, they have hurt themselves by not being a supplier that anyone can trust.


49 posted on 04/27/2022 9:51:08 PM PDT by jimmygrace
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To: Cronos

Soros and Schwab hate all this chaos


50 posted on 04/27/2022 9:51:43 PM PDT by A strike (The DeepState/Uniparty doesn't only hate Trump, they hate US)
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To: Zhang Fei

Germany was trying to draw Russia into a tight, mutually beneficial economic relationship.

Poland told them they were nuts.

The gradual outcome, a peaceful continent full of good neighbors and very few weapons stretching from Lisbon to Moscow was the pipedream (pipe... ironic)

This was reasonable, sensible and it should have worked. Even a perennially lousy neighbor like Putinland would surely see the growing benefits of collaboration and integration.

The alternative was to respond to Putin’s paranoia and threatening noises by collapsing all the mutually beneficial trading links and arming ourselves to the teeth.

Putin has tossed decades of integration and peaceful co-existence on the trash heap.


51 posted on 04/27/2022 9:52:19 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: A strike

Soros would have preferred Ukraine to collapse in 5 days.


52 posted on 04/27/2022 9:53:04 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: Cronos

Putin was the wild card. So it was not to be.


53 posted on 04/27/2022 9:53:40 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Long Jon No Silver; buwaya

Did you read what he said about Russian society? How individual Russians succeed DESPITE the culture, just as Arabs.

Spain is not like that, thanks to franco and then opening up from the 80s.


54 posted on 04/27/2022 9:55:00 PM PDT by Cronos
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To: buwaya
Russia might have had a chance, once, back in 1914, but way too much has happened since.

Split up Russia.

55 posted on 04/27/2022 9:55:41 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Long Jon No Silver

I dont actually live in Spain on a permanent basis. I have lived in the US for forty years, and am actually from the Philippines. So you could say I am an international man of mystery.

In any case, EU aid to Spain is trivial in terms of its GDP. It could go away tomorrow with little real impact. The economic value of the EU connection is much more a question of markets, private investment and business confidence. Spain got into the “first world” through its own efforts as a consequence of its economic miracle of the 1950s-70s, pre-EU. One of many economic miracles of the time of course. Consider Spain a very pretty sort of Korea.

Come to Spain, you will like it.


56 posted on 04/27/2022 9:56:28 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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It is likely all terrific for the Polish Economy and that of Western Europe. You know, that Europe where my ancestors could not to get the heck away from fast enough.

Things will be going just swimmingly for Poland, Germany, and those other countries by next Winter with no heat and no plan.

57 posted on 04/27/2022 9:56:51 PM PDT by Radix (His Fraudulency Joe Biden…….)
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To: BiglyCommentary

Can’t even produce enough here to sustain ourselves, let alone Poland.

If Trump was still in his office, I’d agree with you.


58 posted on 04/27/2022 9:59:52 PM PDT by SPDSHDW (You get what you let occur with no resistance. Everything Joepedo n' felons do is on your head.)
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"Today I interviewed the Ambassador of the Russian Federation to Poland, Mr. Sergei Andreev. During a nearly hour-long conversation held in the building of the Russian Embassy in Warsaw, we raised a number of important issues not only in Poland-Russia relations. The whole thing tomorrow on my YT."

SykulskiLezek Twitter

("In the background on the wall there is a reproduction of the painting 'Cossacks write a letter to the Sultan' by Repnin. Knowing the Russians, this is no coincidence.") (Russia sending a message)

Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks

Copy. Not the original.


59 posted on 04/27/2022 10:02:19 PM PDT by yesthatjallen
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To: Zhang Fei; All

Something about attempting the same failed concept over and aver...

“...in 2006 and 2009, when the Ukrainian government adopted more pro-Western policies and upset the Kremlin, Russia outright shut off the country’s gas supply [while still freezing] – and by extension, shut off the gas of countries down the supply line in Central and Western Europe, including Germany.”

https://theconversation-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/theconversation.com/amp/how-vladimir-putin-uses-natural-gas-to-exert-russian-influence-and-punish-his-enemies-162413?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16508588726494&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Ftheconversation.com%2Fhow-vladimir-putin-uses-natural-gas-to-exert-russian-influence-and-punish-his-enemies-162413

March 31, 2022 — Putin vows to cut gas supply tomorrow unless Europe pays in roubles

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2022/03/31/ftse-100-markets-live-news-russian-gas-green-energy/


60 posted on 04/27/2022 10:06:07 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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