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1 posted on 04/27/2022 9:57:50 AM PDT by Borges
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To: Borges

If Grant were in the military today he’d be ousted because he wasn’t gay enough.


2 posted on 04/27/2022 10:01:04 AM PDT by MercyFlush (The Soviet Empire is right now doing a dead cat bounce.)
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To: Borges

Shining example of what it meant to be American.


3 posted on 04/27/2022 10:01:21 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: Borges

I’m a Southerner to the core but I have respect for Grant just as Lee did. I would never advocate the removal of his statues.

My favorite Grant quote is his description of Venice and how the city would be quite livable if drained.


4 posted on 04/27/2022 10:01:43 AM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (To the barricades !!!)
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To: Borges

Shining example of what it meant to be American.


6 posted on 04/27/2022 10:03:01 AM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: Borges

Who’s buried in Grants tomb?


8 posted on 04/27/2022 10:07:02 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE (It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies.)
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To: Borges
In July, 1964, General Eisenhower had a long interview with Walter Cronkite on the beaches of Normandy on the 20th anniversary of D-Day. He said then:

I think Ulysses S. Grant is vastly underrated as a man and as a general. I know people think this and that about his drinking habits, which I think have been exaggerated way out of line. The fact is, he never demanded more men or material from the war department, he took over an army that had a long history of retreating and losing. That army had no confidence in their fighting ability and Grant came in as a real outsider. He had so many disadvantages going into the 1864 campaign, now 100 years ago. But he met every test and rose to the occasion unlike I’ve ever seen in American history. He was a very tough yet very fair man and a great soldier. He’s not been given his due...Grant devised a strategy to end the war. He alone had the determination, foresight, and wisdom to do it. It was lucky that President Lincoln didn’t interfere or attempt to control Grant’s strategic line of thinking. Lincoln wisely left the war to Grant, at least in the concluding moves after he came east. Grant is very undervalued today, which is a shame, because he was one of the greatest American generals, if not the greatest.

Eisenhower's response to Richard Nixon when he said that Lee was the better general:

"I wouldn’t say that, Dick. In fact I think it’s not a very reasoned opinion. You forget that Grant captured three armies intact, moved and coordinated his forces in a way that baffles military logic yet succeeded and he concluded the war one year after being entrusted with that aim. I’d say that was one hell of a piece of soldiering extending over a period of four years, the same time we were in the last war.”

Quote which sums up Grant perfectly:

After the first day at Shiloh William Sherman found Grant smoking a cigar and trying to stay out of the rain. "Well, Grant," Sherman said, "We've had the devil's own day, haven't we?" "Yes," replied Grant, "Lick 'em tomorrow though."

And he did.

10 posted on 04/27/2022 10:15:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Borges

I encourage anybody to read about Grant.

Went through the academy, went into service, wasn’t considered much. His friends knew him as a very determined man. He is poor, and when things don’t go well, he even cuts firewood to feed and cloth his family.
War breaks out, he his an afterthought, except to one of his friends, Sherman, who agrees with how the war should be prosecuted.
He is in charge at the first real bloody battle of the west, and even though it starts badly for the Union, he salvages victory from defeat at Shiloh.
He doesn’t dress the part, he drinks and smokes, he isn’t eloquent when he speaks. However, he GETS THE JOB DONE. Lincoln, who has gone through numerous Generals is told that he is a drunk, and he cannot put him in command. Lincoln responds....”He is a drunk? What whiskey does he drink” he askes his Cabinet and staff. They respond they “We don’t know” Lincoln response is “Find out what he drinks and give it to everyone, I can’t spare this man he fights”
Grant ends up rising to the highest command since George Washington and saves the Union, IMHO. His greatest victories were taking Vicksburg and his breakout of Chattanooga. Following Chattanooga he turns his friend loose on the South to march to the sea in the plan they had when war broke out.

and I leave this story....When Grant had broken out of Chattanooga, and sent Sherman on his march. He was recalled post haste to Washington by Lincoln, and was placed in command of all US military, the highest command since Washington. He was in the papers, but people in Washington had really never seen the western army general. He left the battlefield at Chattanooga, still covered in the grime of battle in his battlefield uniform. He stopped by train to pick up his son, and immediately proceeded by rail to Washington. When he arrived, he went for a hotel room. The Hotel looked over his uniform, dirty, and an unshaven man who looked as if he had not slept, wearing a Generals uniform, which they had many of in Washington. He informed the man that they had ‘no room’, but he and his boy could stay in a small room reserved for the help. Grant agreed and signed his name on the Leger, US Grant. When the Hotel Manager realized who this dirty uniformed, unshaven man was, he was given the Presidential suite.....

Lee was told by his Generals that Grant would come for him, and never stop, and he did. Grant did more to save the United States than any man probably in history. He had vision of the post war, and it was a good vision.

Truly a great American and underestimated man.


12 posted on 04/27/2022 10:19:26 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: Borges

Started studying about Grant last year. I believe the reason they push the alcohol stuff so much is how Grant hated, and put down, the democRATS KKK. He sent the Army into the South and did some real damage to the KKK.

If one were to examine Grant’s history closely, and truthfully, one would learn that the KKK has always been the democRATS militia.


13 posted on 04/27/2022 10:26:11 AM PDT by Ronaldus Magnus III (Do, or do not, there is no try. )
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18 posted on 04/27/2022 10:39:48 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Atsk about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: Borges; null and void

Interesting...I just remarked to Freeper null and void today that I thought Grant was underappreciated. I thought he was a great man, he had his flaws, but all great people do.

Timely!


23 posted on 04/27/2022 10:48:36 AM PDT by rlmorel (Democrats running things is termite infestation, and the exterminator won't be here for 3 years.)
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To: Borges

No paywall source-
https://goodwordnews.com/president-ulysses-s-grant-deserves-more-respect/


27 posted on 04/27/2022 10:55:21 AM PDT by matthew fuller (He hits from both sides of the plate. He's amphibious. Yogi Berra )
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To: Borges

Wish Grant had been sniped at Shiloh. It would have saved a whole lot of lives .


28 posted on 04/27/2022 10:56:30 AM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: Borges

Grant was the greatest American General. In the civil war he was only general on either to capture an entire enemy army and he did it three times. He was a brilliant strategist as well as tactician and was the supreme general terms of organization and logistics.


30 posted on 04/27/2022 11:02:30 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Borges

A better military man than any of his critics. Got the job done.


34 posted on 04/27/2022 11:10:01 AM PDT by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Borges

By the time Grant took command the South was penniless, shoeless, had 1/10th the industrial might of the North and woefully outmanned (in sheer #s). The North was fielding fresh conscripts (mostly Irish immigrants). Sherman? He was a war criminal who starved, burned out and murdered civilians.


41 posted on 04/27/2022 11:36:59 AM PDT by HockeyPop
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To: Borges

In his civil war mems, he indicates that the Mexican war was the most worthless war fought for all the wrong reasons. Later he indicates that the expenditures for military purposes be used for the general defense of the nation and nothing more.
In short, he basically indicated that WE SHOULD NOT, become become entangled in foreign interventions.

As president, he made poor choices for the fulfillment of his cabinet. But, he also put an end to the thought of control of the nations currency by a national bank and prevented it.

He drank out of boredom. Never partook of it while his wife or sons were present or when things were “hot” on the battlefield. It took just a little to make him tipsy.

He was a short man.

He also was a quiet man not particular to anger-only two or three times he showed any anger on the battle campaign.

He was a private type man with his family. He was once caught holding his wife’s hand by one of his staff and he basically blushed about it. He loved his family dearly.

He was frightened to near death about giving speeches.

The site of blood made him ill.

He once had a man flogged for being mean to a horse.

It is said that he smoked over 20 cigars a day.

He was just 45 or 46 when he took command of ALL the federal armies during that war.


43 posted on 04/27/2022 11:39:05 AM PDT by crz
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To: Borges
and did it so well

Four to one manpower advantage not to mention all the cargo and logistics advantageous, also a willingness to throw away lives rather cavalierly.

I wouldn't call what he did, doing it "well."

47 posted on 04/27/2022 11:49:50 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Borges

as I recall Grant was a crook like Biden


89 posted on 04/27/2022 2:14:50 PM PDT by bert ( (KW?E. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Homer_J_Simpson

Ping.

5.56mm


102 posted on 04/27/2022 2:34:31 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: Borges
I think the thing I like most about Grant is that he liked macaroni and cheese. And salmon. Props to Grant.

Okay - I made that up. Unsure on his affection for macaroni and cheese. Or salmon.
103 posted on 04/27/2022 2:34:56 PM PDT by Fury
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