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Germany to deliver anti-aircraft tanks to Ukraine
UPI ^ | Apr 27, 2022 | Darryl Coote

Posted on 04/27/2022 3:20:34 AM PDT by tlozo

Germany has agreed to send 50 anti-aircraft tanks to Ukraine to aid its fight against Russia, Berlin's defense ministry said, as the European Country continues to distance itself from its former anti-militarization policies.

Berlin for decades has maintained a strong stance against investing in its military and providing military assistance to other nations stemming from its involvement from the Second World War.

However, Russia's invasion of Ukraine on Feb. 24 marked a "turning point" for Germany, Chancellor Olaf Scholz said.

Since the invasion, Germany has announced lethal weapons for Ukraine and an historic expansion to the country's defense spending of more than 2% of its gross domestic product...

(Excerpt) Read more at upi.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bloweduprealgood; clownworld; ifitsukeitsdown; russia; ukraine; war
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Gepard anti-aircraft tank with two 35-mm machine gun canons


1 posted on 04/27/2022 3:20:34 AM PDT by tlozo
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Looks like the Russian ZSU-23 Gun from Viet Nam....

Upgraded with a TAR (target acquisition radar) on the back and what looks like a possible MMW (millimeter wave) TER (target engagement radar on the front between the guns.)


2 posted on 04/27/2022 3:26:29 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Putin, the master strategist, has managed the impossible: get Finland and Sweden to join NATO, and get NATO European countries to start actually paying their fair share or more of defense expenses.


3 posted on 04/27/2022 3:28:34 AM PDT by lump in the melting pot
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To: lump in the melting pot

Welcome to WW3.


4 posted on 04/27/2022 3:34:49 AM PDT by foundedonpurpose (Praise Hashem, for his restoration of all things!)
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To: foundedonpurpose
Welcome to WW3.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_proxy_wars

5 posted on 04/27/2022 3:49:14 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: foundedonpurpose
This is certainly the way world wars start.

Putin's choices are limited. He can either ramp up or cower.

If he cowers, he's dead meat. If he ramps up, his opposition ramps up.

And then it's rinse and repeat.

Putin will not cower under any condition.

He wants to live to spend his money and he doesn't want to tarnish his reputation as a tough guy.

6 posted on 04/27/2022 3:51:57 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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It’s a hell of a lot faster reacting and training than the ZSU-23. The Gepard also could include Stinger missile launchers attached to the gun sponsons, but the Germans opted not to buy that option.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYVzEF1I-X4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtmpGA137hc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwZtdVaUxS0

The Soviet/Russian counterpart, arguably more capable, is the 2K22 Tunguska.

The US has no counterpart.


7 posted on 04/27/2022 3:59:49 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: tlozo

It just keeps getting better and better.


8 posted on 04/27/2022 4:11:09 AM PDT by BiglyCommentary
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That’s one nice looking flugabwehrkanonenpanzer.


9 posted on 04/27/2022 4:55:13 AM PDT by Krosan
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Germany has agreed to send 50 anti-aircraft tanks to Ukraine to aid its fight against Russia

I guess it would be cricket for Russia to return these tanks to Berlin from, let's say, 30,000 feet.

10 posted on 04/27/2022 5:02:42 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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Just read Russia knocked out sub stations supplying power to the rail system.

Nothing will move by rail, for several days, in Ukraine


11 posted on 04/27/2022 5:04:20 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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This crap would stop if Russia would simply take out the Biden/Clinton playground Government.


12 posted on 04/27/2022 5:08:03 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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Gepard anti-aircraft tank with two 35-mm machine gun canons: Has it ever been tested in actual warfare?


13 posted on 04/27/2022 5:13:30 AM PDT by Bookshelf
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Anyone supplying drugs or weapons into my community is enemy number one to hit, after the drug dealers/gang bangers.

Going to be shocked retard heads of state when this war hits home soil.

The poor pay, never the rich.


14 posted on 04/27/2022 5:25:22 AM PDT by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It ( )
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This crap would stop if Russia would simply take out the Biden/Clinton playground Government.

Partner, u said a mouthful!!!

The problem started with the 1992 election of the Clintoons into the presidency.

I still remember that gal saying that the elections could be swayed by as much as 6% to 8% of the vote.

She said this on national TV.

The democrats can say anything over the air waves and no repercussions at all!!!

Her name is Donna Brazile.
15 posted on 04/27/2022 5:52:28 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (The Business of America is Business)
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Why do they brag about sending this stuff? One of those big missles will be looking for the arrival.

This is great business for the weapons manufacturers. BIG WAR

Send yer old junk to Ukraine and get replacements from Uncle Sloppy Joe and his neocon war pimps.


16 posted on 04/27/2022 6:00:45 AM PDT by dforest (We have to put a stop to this now.)
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The article doesn’t say whether the Ukrainians will paint over the German Iron Cross or take them as they are?


17 posted on 04/27/2022 6:01:25 AM PDT by Mr Radical (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: tlozo

Here's another pic.

18 posted on 04/27/2022 6:10:09 AM PDT by FtrPilot
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To: Bookshelf

Not that I’m aware of. Does extremely well in complex live fire exercises, though. Part of why I said the same-idea-but-with-more-stuff Tunguska was arguably better - as the 2K22 series has been combat tested and between its missiles and the two AA autocannons it’s proven to be hell on wheels in the short range AA game.

The Germans mostly retired the Gepard from frontline service, though other nations still use it, in favor of missile-armed AA vehicles. On the other hand, there is renewed interest in the vehicle concept as a defense against drones.


19 posted on 04/27/2022 6:13:55 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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The Germans are highly unlikely to get replacements from us.


20 posted on 04/27/2022 6:14:33 AM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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