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Politics Is Downstream from Culture...but What Is Culture Downstream From?
American Thinker.com ^ | April 23, 2023 | Deborah C. Tyler

Posted on 04/23/2022 3:04:38 AM PDT by Kaslin

Before his untimely death ten years ago, Andrew Breitbart's most famous quote was "politics is downstream from culture." That concept is the basis for what is called the Breitbart Doctrine, which holds that in order to change politics, it is first necessary to change culture.

Breitbart was partially correct. In a cohesive, functional society whose members generally understand assumptions regarding faith and moral ideals, politics does indeed flow from culture. But more importantly, culture is downstream from religion.

Andrew Breitbart was born in 1969, when the fundamental destruction of the unifying American religious narrative and morality had begun. He could not see that the relationship between culture and politics is not a two-step progression, but two aspects of a self-energizing cycle consisting of three elements of human civilization: religion, culture, and politics. Religion provides the foundation of belief, culture provides the enrichment of knowledge, and politics (the least of these) provides opinion and activism to recalibrate power as necessary to sustain unity.

Religion provides answers for the questions of whence and whither and why to control the self on behalf of society. Religious belief in the significance of life and unchanging truth inspires a search for and participation in that truth, from which flows cultural creativity and engagement, which in turn unifies society and limits the dangers of political struggle.

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1 posted on 04/23/2022 3:04:38 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Pretty stirring for a Saturday morning.

The murmurs of the old women in the churches are being replaced by the left’s loud clacking of their rosary beads of sex, race and oppression.

And in one generation, too.

What the hell have we done?


2 posted on 04/23/2022 3:20:41 AM PDT by Adder (Proud member of the FJBLGB community: /s is implied where applicable.)
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To: Kaslin

We lost this country when we removed the Ten Commandments from the town square. We lost our guidepost.


3 posted on 04/23/2022 3:23:30 AM PDT by griswold3 (When chaos serves the State, the State will encourage chaos)
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To: Kaslin

Well, Woke Culture is down stream from the outhouse.


4 posted on 04/23/2022 4:32:06 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda.)
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To: Kaslin

That’s not new. Gramsci back in the 1920’s posited the same theory, and that’s why Marxists have been intent on changing culture ever since.


5 posted on 04/23/2022 4:41:20 AM PDT by P.O.E.
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To: Kaslin

Culture is down stream, or the result of history. Civil stasis or evolution is the result of historical precedent.


6 posted on 04/23/2022 4:47:25 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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To: Kaslin

The Naked Communist

why communists attack the culture
stealth warfare


7 posted on 04/23/2022 6:29:22 AM PDT by SisterK (recognize and resist tyranny)
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To: Kaslin

The premise is incorrect, so the argument is null.


8 posted on 04/23/2022 6:29:57 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Eliminate race, gender and climate and Democrats have no talking points.)
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To: Kaslin

the sewer.


9 posted on 04/23/2022 6:31:38 AM PDT by euram
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To: bert

Culture is down stream, or the result of history.
***Interesting perspective. What I’m running into is that wokesters refuse to apply even the most basic elements of history to discussions. They deny historically accepted facts that both sides acknowledged at the time.

Both sides acknowledged at the time that Jesus was put to death for mere words, for merely claiming He was equal with God, for mere blasphemy , for merely answering the question of His identity before the highest court in the land. That’s the basis of CS Lewis’s “Mere Christianity”.

We cannot even have discussions with wokesters about mere history.


10 posted on 04/23/2022 7:50:39 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Then show how the premise is incorrect. Until then, your own argument is null.


11 posted on 04/23/2022 7:51:27 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Kaslin
When you read Oswald Spengler (”Decline of the West”), he calls Civilization the degraded form of culture. He says every civilization arises out of a unique culture. If I get it right, societies develop out of the various cultures.

Also, society is a kind of ‘contract’ among members to work and live in an agreed way. Our politics is the way we refine the contract to accommodate the needs of all members.

Liberals in the US arbitrarily circumvent the established laws and protocols of our agreed system and they invalidate the votes of whole swaths of members.

Looking at it that way, it's annoying when I hear so called ‘experts’ and scholars who talk about society, culture and civilization as if they are all the same then, I get the idea they really do NOT know what they are talking about.

In the US, our culture began as Christian European. If we deny/invalidate that premise, it's going to be reflected in our society. Change is necessary and a good thing, but only if it's change for all and for the better. That's not happening.

So many people who want to trash our culture, don't have a thinkable or a workable replacement for it. They need to broaden their understanding of what has been going on for a couple hundred years in the US.

Here's a great place to start: ‘The common man eloped with history and ran off to the United States of America. Jefferson and his friends re invented politics... Carnegie, Ford and Rockefeller took it from there.’ E. Hofer

12 posted on 04/23/2022 8:08:55 AM PDT by SMARTY (“Liberalism is totalitarianism with a human face.” Thomas Sowell)
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To: Kaslin

To change politics, it is first necessary to change culture.

Any questions why we no longer have a border.

Woke is a decoy


13 posted on 04/23/2022 8:16:06 AM PDT by Vaduz ( )
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To: Adder

Politics is downstream from culture. Culture is downstream from PRINCIPLE, not necessarily religion. The principles at the foundation of a culture may be religious, but they don’t necessarily have to be.


14 posted on 04/23/2022 8:40:16 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Kaslin
Before his untimely death ten years ago, Andrew Breitbart

The author spelled 'murder' wrong.
15 posted on 04/23/2022 8:50:47 AM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: Kaslin

There is an interesting book out recently called “Is Atheism Dead?” by
It provides a framework for a new revitalization of religion and culture.
What it shows is that the atheist materialist have proven that God is both Transendent and Immanent. Transendent means that the Universe has a beginning—as with the big bang. The causal force for everything that is understood by physics is outside of physics. That the various 11-32 dimensions and many metaverses that scientists postulate are unproven and unprovable. That even if for example they were able to show that that there were many universes—that would simply set the issue further back in time. That is, what is generating all those universes?
What the atheist materials have also shown is that God is immanent. That is, an active intelligence inserts itself from time in the creation. This is shown by the activity of life: Both is in the creation of life. and the changing nature of life. Atheists will argue that earth was seeded by aliens. But again—that only sets the genesis of life further back in time.

It is these two propositions: God’s Immanence and God’s transcendence that should be the basis of a new paradigm in the universities.

There needs to be a paradigm shift.


16 posted on 04/23/2022 9:28:10 AM PDT by ckilmer (qui)
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To: Kevmo

Prove yours correct.


17 posted on 04/23/2022 10:44:34 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag (Eliminate race, gender and climate and Democrats have no talking points.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

You were the one with the initial assertion. The onus is on you.

I see you aren’t bothering to back up your assertion, so it is null... for a second time.


18 posted on 04/23/2022 10:46:12 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Vaduz
Any questions why we no longer have a border.
***An unholy uniparty alliance.


19 posted on 04/23/2022 10:49:09 AM PDT by Kevmo (Give back Ukes their Nukes https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4044080/posts)
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To: Alberta's Child

“Culture is downstream from PRINCIPLE”

But—agreed but the important question is who controls the creation of “principle”.

In the days of Ancient Egypt the Pharaoh controlled the creation of “principle”, controlled religion, controlled culture, controlled politics.

Who are today’s Pharaoh’s?

Answer: They are the billionaires that own Big Tech and the mass media.

Culture is top down cram down.


20 posted on 04/23/2022 10:49:53 AM PDT by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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