Posted on 04/21/2022 7:56:23 AM PDT by grundle
Thanks for this response:
“This way the bright kids don’t challenge their ‘ELITE’ brats.”
Looking back, both of our sons were targets of the school admin. as they challenged the Elites’ kids.
One son, just said $crew it and dropped out and got his GED. This B$, just encouraged the other son, and he loved to compete with the elites.
I went to Catholic school and I was also in a gifted program from 1979-1983. Those were held at a local public school, so for part of the day one of those short buses would take us to the public school for the gifted program. They would teach things like architecture, television broadcasting, and how to recognize propaganda. However, they were also open to specific goals that our parents might have. My dad told the teacher that the one thing he wanted me to learn most was how to type. He recognized that computing was the future and that strong typing skills would be important. He also bought me a TI99/4-A with the Extended Basic cartridge to get me started on coding, and later an IBM PC for the both of us for the same reason. Fast forward forty years and I’ve had a long career as a software engineer.
“It’s egalitarian notion - that by taking gifted kids out of regular classes they are not letting the other kids learn from them. That it hurts everyone else basically.”
My older son has two life long friends. One was/is gifted like our son, and the other is a hard working average guy.
The hard working average joe, admits that our son and the other gifted guy enabled him to get by in high school and 2 years of local college with his friends a phone call away. He is a hard hat type of guy and makes a good living as a foreman in construction jobs.
Your posting above re hurting everyone is right on target now and decades ago
Smart people and average people, who are decently educated are a threat to the Democrat party.
Just a minor addition to your excellent thoughts, above.
IQ 120 puts you into the 90th percentile.
IQ 140 puts you into the 99.6 percentile.
Schools with what they call "gifted and talented" programs are aiming at IQ 120+ students.
Good answer and epic presentation.
They want everyone dumb enough to vote democrat.
“Gifted” homeschooled kids are pretty much self-taught, and they still excel in college.
No special taxpayer-funded programs needed.
You're right - it's a mix. Too many people overlook that truism...
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I had a boy in Newington who was a hellion. Kind of a Huck Finn type of personality.
He irritated his teachers. He should have been outside skinning his knees and climbing trees, rather than be in classroom.
I advocated for him, with the principal, for weeks upon weeks to work out a individualized program, where he could come to my classroom and work on projects.
[In other words, teacher could send him away to me, when she couldn’t stand him anymore]. The principal got tired of me being a squeaky hinge., and relented. Kid’s parents were on board too.
Huck Finn kid is my classroom....I run out to use the restroom...leaving Huck alone.
Huck finds a wig in a carton we were going to use to make a scarecrow. Huck jumps on the tables [wig on], leaping from one table to another....and guess who walks by....the principal. Poor Huck & I got a stern talking to....but fortunately, life went on.
I don’t care if your child is a genius, Huckster or low functioning. Any child benefits from extra attention.
You are blessed.
Did you ever have a primary teacher who divided the class into reading cohorts and called the groups *Cardinals*, *Bluebirds, *Robins*. Inside of ten minutes, all the kids knew the *Cardinals* were the smartest kids...etc.
Kids who are wizards are as challenging to raise as kids who are intellectually low. IMO.
Did you ever apply for a job and the interviewer asked you what your grades were? Never happened to me, all they want to see is the diploma, and your experience as it relates to the job opening.
[I don’t care if your child is a genius, Huckster or low functioning. Any child benefits from extra attention.]
Congrats.
Love this....thanks for sharing.
We are a small rural community.
What I see of the parenting here, skills that the parents have are passed down to the offspring; e.g. tapping trees and making maple syrup, running/repairing a tractor, cutting and chopping firewood, harvesting deer, bear, wild turkey and the butchering involved, milking cows and other animal husbandry.
Not exacting what you find in *whitelandia*.
Because people who are able to reason at a high level will either compete for position with the extant leftist dictatorians or they will fight intelligently against them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7V12tRrJ3Is
It’s basically this, the kid is too smart to live according to the government.
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