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Russia orders Ukrainian forces in Mariupol to surrender by Sunday morning
CNN ^ | April 16, 2022 | Darya Tarasova

Posted on 04/16/2022 7:25:04 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican

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To: FlipWilson

Azovstal is a really big and important steel plant. Russia probably doesn’t want to damage it any more than necessary. Russia probably intends to keep it.


41 posted on 04/16/2022 8:05:21 PM PDT by BenLurkin ((The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.))
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To: NorseViking
The plant can be leveled without civilian casualties.

After verifiably destroying 90% of Mariupol with artillery and bombing, I am sure the Russkies are concerned about "civilian casualties" now.

42 posted on 04/16/2022 8:05:53 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: mac_truck

Oh, you’re very clever.

You use words that even you can’t define.


43 posted on 04/16/2022 8:06:26 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: lodi90

“This also similar to the Donetsk airport battle in 2014. The Ukrainians never did surrender there. Putin’s no insignia fag army had to blow up the terminal with explosives and entomb them. I expect something similar will happen here.”
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Well, the maze of underground concrete tunnels that the Ukrainians are sheltering in provide an ideal target for Russian thermobaric weapons. They were warned and war is hell.


44 posted on 04/16/2022 8:07:13 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: Paladin2

https://youtu.be/zlokJAUKhFE


45 posted on 04/16/2022 8:07:57 PM PDT by HollyB
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To: NorseViking

The problem with any map of control is it is meaningless.
Ukrainian troops move back and forth across the supposed line of Russian control attacking at the time and place that are convenient to them.

That’s the problem with urban combat. The only real way to take a city is to level every building, and even then there is a lot of cover to be found in the ruble.


46 posted on 04/16/2022 8:08:28 PM PDT by Renfrew
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To: lodi90
The Russians don’t want to take on the steel works because there are no Ukrainian women there to gang rape and murder.

Kind of like the US led LGBTQranians - who only care if there’s kiddies in there to traffic and make sex slaves out of

47 posted on 04/16/2022 8:09:22 PM PDT by atc23 (The Matriarchal Society we embrace has led to masks and mandates and the cult of "safety")
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To: Jamestown1630

“Ukrop (Russian: Укроп; literally “dill”) is a Russian language ethnic slur which refers to Ukrainians.”

Also a political entity.

Smartphones will define words. Touch the word needing definition.


48 posted on 04/16/2022 8:09:22 PM PDT by Does so (https://youtu.be/3PxEWB6W8ig ......Uke's Independence Day Parade. Anthem starts at 15:00)
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To: MinorityRepublican
Russia continues its relentless and devastating attack on the southeastern city.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

49 posted on 04/16/2022 8:09:30 PM PDT by McGruff (A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes)
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To: Jamestown1630

Because the slang I used is the most important thing I said... is that it?

Get over yourself princess, you’re not that bright.


50 posted on 04/16/2022 8:11:39 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera )
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To: Renfrew

There is not a lot of urban combat when the enemy is contained to an isolated location.


51 posted on 04/16/2022 8:13:24 PM PDT by NorseViking
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To: PGR88

Therein is the problem.

They are and will pay the price for this.

We stand to gain economically, so do the Europeans, and the cost to us, at least in the immediate is small. But Ukraine will be in pieces, thousands will be dead, millions will be displaced... The recovery will take many years and the outcome is likely the same: No NATO for Ukraine.

We gambled with another nations future, the very lives of its citizens for an economic end.

Mr Z is our boy. He does what we tell him. Did we really have the right to do this? Was this really the right thing to do?


52 posted on 04/16/2022 8:13:36 PM PDT by Red6
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To: Does so

I don’t use a ‘smart-phone’ machine.

But thanks.

I guess in some quarters here, it’s just fine to use ethnic slurs.


53 posted on 04/16/2022 8:14:49 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: Red6
We gambled with another nations future, the very lives of its citizens for an economic end.

Sadly, I am convinced America's ruling elites in DC are now all evil. Ukraine was pushed into conflict with Russia for their schemes. America used to be a Christian nation, not a globalist empire.

55 posted on 04/16/2022 8:20:24 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Red6
Mr Z is our boy. He does what we tell him. Did we really have the right to do this? Was this really the right thing to do?

In fact, Zelenskyy was perceived as softer on Russia than the other candidates during the election, and made efforts to attempt to appease the Russkies and end the constant shooting/artillery out of Donetsk into Ukraine (which the Russians claim was the other way around, since they are the Islamic terrorists of the Slavic world).

Zelenskyy became what he is now after the Russkies massed a gigantic army on the border, lying to us claiming it was just military training, and then invaded for no reason.

Now Ukraine will not surrender any piece of its land, all thanks to Putin.

56 posted on 04/16/2022 8:21:10 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Equine1952
There’s no Patton on the way

Bump!

57 posted on 04/16/2022 8:21:35 PM PDT by jpsb
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To: MinorityRepublican

If they are holding out in tunnels, can the Russians kill them with some heavier than air chemical, like H2O?


58 posted on 04/16/2022 8:21:38 PM PDT by FarCenter
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To: Jamestown1630

It appears, from the context, anybody fighting the ruskies.🤔


59 posted on 04/16/2022 8:22:06 PM PDT by BiteYourSelf ( Earth first we'll strip mine the other planets later.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Nuts.

L


60 posted on 04/16/2022 8:27:39 PM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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