Posted on 04/13/2022 9:52:34 AM PDT by Red Badger
Russian heavy weapons including missile systems have been seen moving towards the border with Finland, hours after Russia warned its northern neighbour against joining NATO.
An unconfirmed video uploaded last night appears to show two Russian coastal defence missile systems moving along a road on the Russian side of the border that leads to Helsinki.
The missile systems are thought to be the K-300P Bastion-P mobile coastal defence system, designed to take out surface ships up to and including aircraft carrier battle groups.
The Russian deployment comes as Finnish Prime Minister Sanna Marin said she expects her government 'will end the discussion before midsummer' on whether to apply for NATO membership.
Recent opinions polls by a Finnish market research company put 84% of Finns as viewing Russia as a 'significant military threat', up by 25% on last year.
In response, Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov euphemistically warned the move would 'not improve' the security situation in Europe, and Moscow lawmaker Vladimir Dzhabarov added more bluntly it would mean 'the destruction of the country'.
'We have repeatedly said that the alliance remains a tool geared towards confrontation and its further expansion will not bring stability to the European continent,' Peskov said.
(Excerpt) Read more at msn.com ...
It is information that was provided to us as TACAMO crew members.
But all other countries bordering Russia are supposed to be fine with having a heavily armed country next to them?
“And sanctions will deter Russia from attacking Ukraine.”
No, the purpose of sanctions is to crater Russia’s economy and destroy their ability to finance a military.
Considering that two days ago the ruble was trading in China for R7,830.58 for US$1 I’d say the sanctions are doing what they’re intended to do.
This was the official Chinese government rate for exchange on 4/11:
http://www.china.org.cn/china/Off_the_Wire/2022-04/11/content_78158648.htm
Currency Unit Central parity rate in yuan
U.S. dollar 100 636.45 ($1 = Y6.37)
Ruble 1,299.29 100 (R1229.29 = Y1.00)
Therefore a Chinese dollar value of the ruble per this stated market quote is:
$1 = R7,830.58
Over there
As far as I can discern, the US/NATO initiated the violence against the countries on that list.
Is that the prevailing view at Ft Meade?
I’m not going to search for the video of the President claiming just that but it’s there. It’s also not crushing anything which is why they now find themselves threatening India and China. If you think this has been a lesson in foreign policy success, that says it all.
If we were to invade Mexico stating that their narco state is a clear and present danger to the USA, set up a 100 mile wide border buffer zone to intercept Illegal Colonizers... do you suppose Canada would take offense at that & start arming up?
“Were Russia to use nuclear weapons against a non-nuclear Finland then the probability of NATO conducting preemptive first-strike operations against a rogue nuclear armed Russia become absolute.”
Entirely conjecture and unfounded assertion on your part.
“Consequences can be applied without resorting to total war.”
What are you going to do if Russia invades Finland and Sweden? And then maybe Poland?
“Entirely conjecture and unfounded assertion on your part.”
If Russia starts using nukes then nuclear armed nations are going to respond. That’s just how the world works.
Like how Russia thought they could invade Ukraine and not expect a response from the world and now the world is openly supporting Ukraine with arms, funds, and really awesome memes on the net.
“Fine man you get killed. Get your family and loved ones killed also. Just can you figure out a way to do it without getting me and mine killed?”
Also, it depends on how much you love your family. And how much you trust your conquerors.
Historically, if you surrendered with your family, you’d either be killed outright — likely through torture — or worked to death as a slave. Your family? Historically, they would have been better off dead.
Historically, very few nations have been reserved in their treatment of helpless prisoners; and the more primitive the conquering peoples, the more brutal captives are treated.
In the American West it was well known on the frontier that whites taken captive by Indians were horrifically treated, and that meant men, women, and children. Captive women usually fared the worst. In 1866 in Wyoming, a US Army garrison and their families were besieged by an overwhelming number of Sioux, Cheyenne, and Arapaho. It was believed the garrison’s fall was imminent so the post commander ordered that all women and children were to be moved to the post magazine, where all the gun powder was stored. Orders were given that if the walls of the post were breached, the magazine was to be blown up, with the women and children in it, to prevent their capture.
In 1857 in India, during the Great Mutiny, a British garrison at Cawnpore surrendered to the besieging mutineers. After holding out for three weeks, the commanding officer of the British garrison surrendered, after having been given assurance the garrison and all their families would be given safe passage down the river to safety. No sooner had they begun to climb into the boats then the mutineers opened fire. After all the British soldiers and men had been killed, the surviving women and children were brought to a house and courtyard, where they were kept under appalling conditions. But, that was too tame for the mutineers, and there ensured a sadistic slaughter of the innocents that stunned the world. It was so heinous, that the mutineers had an “Oh, shit!” moment, and they fled.
A British relief force, including a regiment of stoic Highlanders, got there too late. But the horror they found at Cawnpore filled them with a burning rage, and as they pursued the guilty mutineers they held nothing back in their desire for vengeance.
So, YOU decide what’s best for you and your family.
The Putin cult is a bit shy today...lol.
Maybe they will crawl out later.
I was told by the MSM and neocons here that pootsie was on the run, driven out of Kiow, his columns of tanks all taken out by an old lady with a jar of pickles because the leftover soviet equipment that the russian mafia is using is a thousand years old and the tires are all popping and the troops are all disillusioned and just want to defect to the west to enjoy butt sex. If he tries to move on those three countries then he will be severely over-stretched and I expect those same three countries to deploy pickle ladies to completely and utterly finish the russkies off.
“The Putin cult is a bit shy today...lol. Maybe they will crawl out later.”
It’s spring break so they probably just went to Fort Lauderdale with their parents to enjoy the holiday.
Sorry I didn’t realize you were in NATO nuclear forces command. Carry on General.
Netflix lol
“What are you going to do if Russia invades Finland and Sweden? And then maybe Poland?”
Me? I’m in my 70s, so no one is going to want me.
But I have nephew, a major in the US Army, who is now in Germany. I can tell you what he’d want to do, and the US troops that are with him would want to do. And it isn’t sitting around watching video games.
Whatever. Watch the video and learn or live in ignorance. In any case you asked for one citation and there it is.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.