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Posted on 04/13/2022 9:19:46 AM PDT by rellimpank
In his latest effort to pretend he is doing something about skyrocketing crime rates, President Joe Biden rolled out his new rule on so-called ghost guns this week. In doing so, he peddled a number of anti-gun cliches and silly comments.
For example, he stated, "You couldn't buy a cannon when the Second Amendment passed." First of all, this is not even true — as of this writing, we cannot find a law from that era banning the purchase of cannons. But more importantly, it is irrelevant to discussions about guns. There has never been a Second Amendment right to keep or bear artillery, land mines, bombs, tanks, nukes, or any other weapons that do not meet the legal and contextual definition of "arms" — i.e., melee or projectile weapons that individuals can wear on their person and carry.
Biden also asserted that 20,000 "suspected ghost guns" are being recovered at crime scenes annually. This statement's relevance depends upon the fallacy that the government has some business tracking who owns guns in the first place. But it is also misleading because the data do not suggest that homemade guns are being used in large numbers of crimes. Between 2016 and 2020, homemade firearms were used in less than 1% (0.36% to be exact) of all homicides. According to the FBI, most guns recovered at crime scenes are not home-printed but rather purchased on the black market (43%), stolen by the perpetrator (6%), acquired from friends or relatives (15%), purchased at retail (10%), or brought to the crime scene by someone other than the perpetrator (12%)
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Between no-bail rules, failure to enforce laws against property crime, and the revolving door created by unwarranted reductions in charges even for serious and violent crimes, these "progressive prosecutors" have generated local crime waves so bad that they are affecting national statistics. San Francisco, which is not exactly known as a bastion of law-and-order conservatism, is on the verge of recalling its errant prosecutor, but many other places — Baltimore, northern Virginia, Philadelphia, New York, Los Angeles, Oakland — are afflicted with such incompetent ideologues who are making their cities unlivable. It doesn't help that Biden's Justice Department has literally pleaded with judges to let people off the hook for murder, at least for murder committed on social justice or "equity" grounds."
I’m absolutely sure all the criminals will obey this law..................
There has never been a Second Amendment right to keep or bear artillery, land mines, bombs, tanks, nukes, or any other weapons that do not meet the legal and contextual definition of “arms” — i.e., melee or projectile weapons that individuals can wear on their person and carry.
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Wrong, cannons were considered “arms” that were protected by the 2nd Amendment and were in the hands of civilians.
FR: Never Accept the Premise of Your Opponent’s Argument
The very corrupt, desperate Democratic-controlled, election year Congress is unconstitutionally letting Biden get away with exercising legislative powers just like Congress let last-term Obama get away with doing imo.
Insights welcome.
Patriots are also reminded that they must vote twice this election year. Your first vote is to primary career RINO incumbents. Your second vote is to replace outgoing Democrats and RINOs with Trump-endorsed patriot candidates.
Again, insights welcome.
It isn't about that, though. It isn't even really about firearms directly.
If Democrats were really worried about criminals getting guns, not just keen on waging a culture war against gun owners, they would not be focusing on the useless gun laws they keep proposing.
We've been pointing that out on FR literally for decades now. Gun owners have been regarded by monied city elites as "those people" who must be crushed by any means necessary, and it isn't very far under the surface, either. The last couple of years, though, an awful lot of the Dem base have become new gun owners and many of them were one glance at that 4473 they had to fill out away from realizing just how oppressive nonsense feel-good laws can be on the receiving end.
Appointed to office by home made, unserialized, untraceable ballots.
So were crew-served machine guns. And still are. If it weren't for the Hughes Amendment, you would be able to purchase a brand-new crew served machine gun today. However, thanks to the Hughes Amendment you'll have to find a current owner willing to part with his.
Liberals are emotional creatures, not thinking creatures. “Ghost gun” sounds scary, so it triggers their emotions. Terminology is carefully chosen. Has there been any crime committed with a 3D printed gun? Heck, why even do that when the BATF is handing out AKs to gang bangers free of charge.
The latest media talking point is that you can assemble one of these in 30 minutes. I watched a 45 minute video of a guy milling an 80% lower AR receiver. This was an apparently very experienced guy with a state of the art drill press and it took him actually over 45 minutes because he truncated some of the tedious tasks. A typical non-machinist would probably spend hours doing this and if I tried it there is 75% chance I’d screw it up. Then you have to actually assemble the firearm. They lie about freakin everything.
Up until 1967, you could order cannons (And I’m not talking antique muzzle loaders.) anti-tank rifles and their ammo through the mail.
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Pure bovine excrement. The point of the Second was that the citizen militia would have the ability to fend off enemies and to do so, you needed to possess the technology to do so. We aren't limited to guns and knives by the second. We are supposed to have access to all arms.
Just what I’ve been saying, if you are into so called “ghost guns” odds are, for what ever reason, be they benign or criminal, you are doing so because you don’t believe the government has any right to know what firearms you own or should have the ability to track said firearms. So you’re not going to give a hoot if they say what you are doing is illegal or not, because well, that’s kind of the point, the Government can’t charge you for something if they don’t even know it exists.
When the constitution was written, you could have own any tool of war you could afford.
Guns, artillery, protective gear, battle horses, battleships, bombs, armed wagons, you could build you own private forts...
There were even private armies.
It was all just durn expensive, so few could afford it.
The gun control originated in England as rich people wanted to protect their wildlife from poaching.
The Founders were very leery of standing armies. Cromwell wasn’t ancient history to them. That’s why the 2A exists - states were fearful of a federally controlled standing army, and wouldn’t sign on to the Constitution without that guarantee. In 1861 we got one anyway, but the 2A still allows us a small check on it.
Even during the Civil War, private citizens owned what would amount to a WW2 destroyer or destroyer escort. And they were effective during wartimes, too.
Two of my neighbors have working brass cannon and 2 iron cannons filled with grapeshot on their front lawns to scare off illegal immigrants.
CANNONS and ARTILLERY WERE LEGAL IN PHILADELPHIA IN 1790
ORDINANCES Ordinance of January 18 1790 An ordinance for the suppression of nuisances and enforcing of useful regulations within the city of Philadelphia For the other sections of this ordinance see JWuisances and Carriages 1 And whereas the firing of cannon or other great pieces of artillery or ordnance and the illuminating of houses within the city on occasions of public rejoicing have been attended with many great mischiefs and inconveniences It is therefore ordained and enacted That no person or persons whatsoever shall fire or discharge any cannon or other piece of artillery or ordnance or illuminate or cause or permit to be illuminated any house within the built parts of this city without the permission of the mayor of the city for the time being first had and obtained in writing under his hand under the penalty of forfeiting and paying for every piece of cannon or other artillery or ordnance so fired or house so illuminated the sum of five dollars all and every the fine and fines imposed by this ordinance shall be recoverable with costs of suit by any person
who shall sue for the same before the mayor recorder or any
alderman of the said and shall go one moiety to the person or
persons who shall sue for the same and the other moiety for the
use of the city Ordinance of July 9 1821 p.78
A Digest of the Ordinances of the Corporation of the City of Philadelphia: And of the Acts of Assembly Relating Thereto
Corporation (PHILADELPHIA), John C. LOWBER (and MILLER (C. S.))
Robert Desilver, 1822 - Municipal charters and ordinances - 301 pages
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“Cannons for sale Six very excellent double fortified sizes, with ammunition...”
New-York Commercial Advertiser, August 02, 1804, Page 1
for sale 4 cannons
New-York Evening Post., July 16, 1811, Page 1
for sale 200 cannons and 100 tons of shot’
New-York Evening Post ., September 23, 1828, Page 3
for sale 200 cannons and howitzers and tons of shot and ammunition
New-York Evening Post , November 02, 1844, Page 1 [NY City]
for sale 50 cannons and 100 tons of shot
New-York Evening Post , September 09, 1829, Page 1 [NY City]
https://nyshistoricnewspapers.org/lccn/sn83030385/1829-09-
09/ed-1/seq-1/#date1=01%2F01%2F1790&sort=relevance&date2=12%2F31%2F1845&searchType=advanced&SearchType=phrase&sequence=0&lccn=&index=7&words=Cannons&proxdistance=&to_year=1845&rows=20&ortext=&from_year=1790&proxtext=&phrasetext=cannons+&andtext=&dateFilterType=range&page=12
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U.S. Govt sells 400 cannons, 36 mortars, muskets and cartridges to the general public.
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Evening Courier & Republic, February 07, 1866, Page 3 [Buffalo, NY]
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At the outset of the American Revolution, much if not most of the artillery/field guns were privately owned.
Cannons are perfectly legal as long as they are muzzleloading. Breech loaders are frowned on. Biden is fulla sh#t as always. FJB.
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