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Putin has managed to undo 75 years of Finnish foreign and defense policy in 4 weeks. Impressive. All part of his plan I suppose.
1 posted on 04/04/2022 7:08:37 AM PDT by lodi90
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Finland has great sardines, they hold together nicely and stay firm. I like them on pumpernickel bread with a tall, cold beer, or two. As far as NATO membership, they need to not poke the bear.


2 posted on 04/04/2022 7:14:05 AM PDT by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: lodi90

I see no indication in this article the headline is true, just a statement from Finland’s main opposition party and a public poll.


3 posted on 04/04/2022 7:14:37 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: lodi90

Stalin had real problems taking on Finland. Putin would be foolish to attack them. Simo Haya lives!


5 posted on 04/04/2022 7:20:06 AM PDT by dynachrome ("I will not be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: lodi90

Finland’s problem is that close to 90% of all businesses are working on the Russian market, of them for 20-25% Russian is a primary market.
Nokian makes 75% of advanced tires in Russia, and all the supply chain for the Russian factory is outside Finland.


6 posted on 04/04/2022 7:20:59 AM PDT by NorseViking
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To: lodi90

Sweden and Finland are both likely to join, and will both be useful members of NATO.

The big project that a competent president needs to do is expand NATO into a global alliance.

We need Australia, Japan, South Korea, and Singapore on the same team with our European allies.


7 posted on 04/04/2022 7:23:46 AM PDT by Renfrew
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To: lodi90
Putin has managed to undo 75 years of Finnish foreign and defense policy in 4 weeks. Impressive. All part of his plan I suppose.

I find this dynamic to be the most confusing part of the equation. Did Putin expect his neighbors to stand by and wait for their turn to be attacked? Seems like a significant miscalculation for a "superpower" nation state. But time will tell, I suppose. I'm sure there's plenty more miscalcs to come.

10 posted on 04/04/2022 7:26:44 AM PDT by paulcissa (Politicians want you unarmed so they can kill you.)
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To: lodi90

As bravely as the Fins fought Russia’s takeover in WW2, they are no match for Russia then or now.


11 posted on 04/04/2022 7:27:47 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: lodi90

Maybe they read this.

https://t.co/9KevJMy72r

While people witter on about convoluted conspiracies and ideology, Russian media and politicians have been pretty clear about the objectives.

1. Warsaw Pact back where it belongs - under Russian thumb.

2. In Putin logic there is no such thing as a legitimate independent country in the Warsaw Pact region. They’re all ornery vassal rebel scum.

3. If you’re Ukrainian then you are untermensch. So you’re either handing out flowers to the Russian army, or you’re expendable.

4. If you’re an armed Ukrainian, or simply wearing the Ukrainian flag, then you are a defacto Nazi and because all Nazis must die, so must you. Quite unequivocal on this point. In Russian troop logic, a five year old Ukrainian seen holding a Ukrainian flag is already a nazi beyond redemption.

5. Denazification, de-ukrainisation, De-Europeanization, de-westernization and de-democratization ate all the same.

6. This isn’t about communism, it’s about restoring the pre-communist imperial Russia as an apparent autocracy (Putin) backed by oligarchy and kleptocracy (the Caviar Express) as the new aristocracy.

Rinse and repeat across the Baltics. Europe has known this mindset has been growing for 10 years but we kept kidding ourselves that Mad Vlad couldn’t possibly be THAT mad, bad and dangerous.

Newsflash. He is. Rusdian MSM wouldn’t dare print manifestos for genocide or talk ipenly about reconquering the Baltics if the Kremlin wasn’t signing it off.


14 posted on 04/04/2022 7:30:18 AM PDT by MalPearce
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Only a globalist would feel happy with Finland joining NATO. The globalists are now controlling NATO and are using its reinvigoration as the muscle to further their agenda. Put another way, the American taxpayer is funding the deconstruction of their own country.


15 posted on 04/04/2022 7:32:53 AM PDT by allendale
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To: lodi90

NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg “

Why is this even a thing?


16 posted on 04/04/2022 7:33:00 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: lodi90

“Hey, I got an idea - let’s put ourselves on the front line for WW3!!”


19 posted on 04/04/2022 7:33:52 AM PDT by LouieFisk
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To: lodi90

Considering what happened to Russia the last time they screwed with the Finns and their disaster in Ukraine Putin might want to keep his cake hole shut.

L


24 posted on 04/04/2022 7:42:50 AM PDT by Lurker (Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: lodi90

Military consequences? What military?


28 posted on 04/04/2022 7:50:56 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (Capitalism is what happens when you leave people alone.)
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To: lodi90
Regardless of what deal they strike with Russia, Ukraine will eventually join NATO. May not happen anytime soon, or while Putin is in Power which won’t be for long, but it will happen. And so will the rest of the countries in the region.
33 posted on 04/04/2022 7:54:22 AM PDT by libh8er
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To: lodi90

After Russia is getting pounded in Ukraine and what Finland did to Russia during WW2 Finland says “Bring it on”


53 posted on 04/04/2022 9:19:26 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( I make airplanes fly, what's your super power?)
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To: lodi90

Finland has a very dangerous choice.

Either way, she is going to be in conflict with Russia soon, as Russia does not acknowledge it as a legitimate state but a breakaway province.

Same with the Baltic States, Poland, and probably part of Germany. Now, Russia knows it can’t digest all that, but Scandinavia joining NATO will lead to conflict.


54 posted on 04/04/2022 9:22:46 AM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: lodi90

Russian threats of military consequences have lost a lotta oomph lately.


59 posted on 04/04/2022 1:41:34 PM PDT by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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