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Red Metal, The Great Copper Country strike of 1913
PBS. ^ | 03.23.22 | crz

Posted on 03/30/2022 12:17:55 PM PDT by crz

The great Copper Country Strike of 1913 and the Italian Hall disaster. About an hour long.


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I can see similarities to today's attitude toward the working men and women in this nation by the elites.

And they wonder why Unions formed. To this day, the name Calumet and Hecla is held in extreme distaste by many, not only in that area, but way beyond.

Why would I be interested in that. Because my wife's family is from up there and her grandparents went through it. My dads uncles hired many who left that place to work in the woods up around that area...just so they could feed their family and survive.

1 posted on 03/30/2022 12:17:55 PM PDT by crz
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csz2do69XP8


2 posted on 03/30/2022 12:18:20 PM PDT by crz
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Was it a Copper Caper?.......................


3 posted on 03/30/2022 12:22:34 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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As a very young child-bout 5 or 6, I remember a timber company in northern WI who paid their workers in script. You spent that in the company store. You lived in a company house. You belonged to the company.
If you changed your (script, it think that is what it is called) into cash and went to another town to shop, they wanted to know why. If they felt you had no reason to spend in another town, you were fired and forced out of your company home.

We called that script wooden nickels.


4 posted on 03/30/2022 12:23:13 PM PDT by crz
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDfYiFrXZ6E


5 posted on 03/30/2022 12:24:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Government history does so much to pervert and skew our understanding of what’s happened within our own country.

Government historians cannot be trusted.

It’s this kind of domination that led inevitably to CRT.


6 posted on 03/30/2022 12:26:08 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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What are you saying?

Are you saying that this is propaganda?


7 posted on 03/30/2022 12:33:18 PM PDT by crz
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Michigan’s Copper Country collapsed after WWI ended.

There were cheaper sources of copper discovered around the country, so Michigan’s copper was no longer economically viable.


8 posted on 03/30/2022 12:35:03 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Largest deposit of native float copper in the world is there and exist to this day.

That is why it became (one of the main reasons) economically impossible to get it out of the ground.

Besides all that, the UP of Michigan, being this and the iron range, built a good portion of America. Whether you like to admit that or not, that is a fact.


9 posted on 03/30/2022 12:40:13 PM PDT by crz
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Besides all that, the UP of Michigan, being this and the iron range, built a good portion of America. Whether you like to admit that or not, that is a fact.

Don't forget all of the old-growth timber that we provided to a growing America.

But the fact remains that the mines were dying prior to WWI, and the increased demand for copper during the Great War only provided a brief respite to the inevitable, whether we like to admit it or not.

Even the demands of WWII couldn't reopen most of the mines in the UP.

10 posted on 03/30/2022 12:45:03 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Some 90% of the raw iron ore for the use of making war materials was had from that area and N MN.

To this day, some of those mines keep producing Iron Pellets for the production of metals throughout the world.

As of now, several mining companies are up there since having rediscovered the mineral deposits in that area. Known fact is, there are lots of types of minerals there yet to be got and have been forgotten about for the last century. Rio Tinto being just one.

Those mines were NOT dying prior to WW1. The copper mines shut down because of the cost of having to mine that stuff out of the ground. The Cliffs mine, they ran across a mass of float copper so huge, that it took a year and 3 months to get it out of there. Had to hand cut it up and take it out.

The last copper mine shut down in the 60s. I remember the day it was closed.

Aside from all that, these conversations you and I are having have nothing to do with the 1913 strike.

Did not even watch one minute of the special did you?
And as usual, the thread shi@ers show up.
Maybe try taking a look and having a honest discussion instead of getting on someones thread and s@it all over it.


11 posted on 03/30/2022 1:03:51 PM PDT by crz
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Yes, that is what I’m saying. It’s no secret that PBS is propaganda, am I really telling you something you’ve never heard before? Really?

You know that PBS is government funded, right?


12 posted on 03/30/2022 1:06:35 PM PDT by ProgressingAmerica (A man's rights rest in 3 boxes. The ballot box, jury box and the cartridge box.- Frederick Douglass)
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Nobody sh!t on your thread, dude. Chill.


13 posted on 03/30/2022 1:07:08 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Couldn’t have been captain Klapper on the copper caper?

5.56mm


14 posted on 03/30/2022 1:44:39 PM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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I really think you need to understand that this is an historical event and all interview were done with local people well informed of the event.
Now, I dont care if it is funded by the government or not as they did a pretty good job on this program...other than Steve Earls little music ditty.
Aside from all that, you are basically saying that we people up there are lying? Is that what you are saying?
It isnt your usual PBS news program.

So stay off the thread if you dont like it or watch it and then enter the discussion.


15 posted on 03/30/2022 2:52:58 PM PDT by crz
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Refer you to the post above yours.


16 posted on 03/30/2022 2:53:51 PM PDT by crz
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Listen, Jack, YOU accused ME of SHITTING on your thread in YOUR post 11 when you addressed ME and ONLY ME with the remark "Maybe try taking a look and having a honest discussion instead of getting on someones thread and s@it all over it."

YOU accused ME directly. I DID NOT shit on your thread, I tried to have an intelligent conversation about the copper mining industry in my native Michigan. But apparently any opinion, no matter how backed up by facts, that don't match your preconceived notions is apparently "shitting."

Then you go off about iron ore. We were discussing COPPER MINING, not iron ore, but whatever dude.

Go Epstein yourself, I'm done darkening YOUR THREAD. Jerk.

17 posted on 03/30/2022 3:08:15 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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I would recommend you stay downstate your effn TROLL.

Lame brained C-sucking little pr#ck.


18 posted on 03/30/2022 3:09:54 PM PDT by crz
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Apology accepted.


19 posted on 03/30/2022 3:16:22 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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No problem. Glad you gave one.


20 posted on 03/30/2022 3:24:54 PM PDT by crz
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