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Trump's base splinters over Ukraine
NBC.com ^ | 28 Mar 2022 | Jonathan Allen

Posted on 03/29/2022 12:56:52 AM PDT by blueplum

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To: gleeaikin
there are certainly strong feelings among FReepers.

I recommend to emotional people that they turn off the MSM, stop letting themselves be triggered by the 24/7 agitprop, and think - with their God given brains - about their own lives and what can be done to fix America right here at home.

41 posted on 03/29/2022 4:13:05 AM PDT by Sirius Lee (They intend to murder us. Prep if you want to live and live like you are prepping for eternal life)
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To: FLT-bird
I don’t think most of Trump’s base wants to get involved in Ukraine

Its not about the US getting physically involved, most Republicans believe more should be done to help the Ukrainians fight, such as sending Migs.

Nearly half (45%) say Joe Biden has been too cautious in supporting Ukraine. Again, this is driven by partisanship (60% of Republicans vs. 35% of Democrats).

https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/news-polls/Americans-support-limited-intervention-Ukraine-prevent-escalation-Russia

42 posted on 03/29/2022 4:15:33 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: eclectic
"I am afraid a bunch of pro-Putin people here are actual Russians from Russia."

I'm more concerned about all the pro-Ukraine people here that are actual leftists and neocons from America.

43 posted on 03/29/2022 4:18:00 AM PDT by Godebert
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To: tlozo

I think after the recent polling showing Biden at 40% it’s best to not trust the polls anymore.


44 posted on 03/29/2022 4:18:56 AM PDT by Its All Over Except ...
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To: Paul R.

We are so screwed.


45 posted on 03/29/2022 4:22:12 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Terry L Smith

Well said.


46 posted on 03/29/2022 4:24:13 AM PDT by rrrod (6)
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To: Terry L Smith
If it’s OK for the U.S. to have a Monroe Doctrine, then it should be OK for Russia to have a Putin Doctrine.

The End.

47 posted on 03/29/2022 4:25:48 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Fresh Wind

Yeah, I can see a situation where someone could easily feel that it’s too bad that they both can’t lose.


48 posted on 03/29/2022 4:27:48 AM PDT by skimbell
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To: blueplum

Splintered? As in the base disagrees with Trump over something? What?

Three paragraphs in it’s something about someone from Latvia but still nothing from Trump

NBC.com should get this straight- everyone agrees that if Trump hadn’t been shoved out that they’d be enjoying life at 2.50 per gallon and Ukraine would be nothing more than a subject in their kids’ geography class. So, no they’re not splintered.


49 posted on 03/29/2022 4:31:29 AM PDT by stanne
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To: blueplum

Both countries are horrible. Russia is Russia and does bad acts. Ukraine is the annex of USA’s deep state and does bad acts. Let ‘em duke it out between themselves. No need to waste our taxpayer dollars, and lives of our young people in the military, on this war that Biden stoked.


50 posted on 03/29/2022 4:32:16 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: blueplum

If I wrote that headline, I would have used “shattered” instead of “splintered”. It’s all a lie anyway, why not get creative.

I put my application into the deep state false narrative pool (DSFNP). Waiting to hear back.


51 posted on 03/29/2022 4:35:51 AM PDT by WeaslesRippedMyFlesh
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To: Terry L Smith

“it is their country, their future, to be decided by them.”

Except it is controlled by America’s corrupt Democrats and RINOs, so nothing really is being decided by the Ukrainians. DC is running the show to continue their money laundering, bio warfare experiments, etc., that they can’t legally do on American soil


52 posted on 03/29/2022 4:37:50 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (When government fears the people, there is liberty.)
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To: blueplum

Is this the same rally where the weather was horrible?? I suspect that has more to do with the “subdued crowd” than any “splintering of Trump’s base”.

From traffic here on FR, yeah, there are differences of opinion on how Ukraine should be handled, but not on support of Trump...


53 posted on 03/29/2022 4:39:09 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (Not Responding to Seagull Snark)
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To: Alberta's Child
If it’s OK for the U.S. to have a Monroe Doctrine, then it should be OK for Russia to have a Putin Doctrine.

First of all US doesn't have a Monroe Doctrine anymore. Its also disingenuous to equate US trying to promote democracy to Putin spreading totalitarianism.

54 posted on 03/29/2022 4:39:26 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: All

Liberaltarian isolationist is merely a soft word to describe Neville Chamberlainesque heads in the sands Leftists.

The isolationist libertarian fringe has crossed the rubicon. Some have stated it very clearly from their ranks, they believe that Russia and China are their allies against their delusions of a NWO globalist western conspiracy.

You can’t understand that and believe the libertarians are part of the conservative cause. Hell, they’re to the Left of RINOs and Biden.


55 posted on 03/29/2022 4:43:48 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Defeating China is impossible without understanding that Russia is our enemy)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Both countries are horrible. Russia is Russia and does bad acts. Ukraine is the annex of USA’s deep state and does bad acts.

You're missing the point-Putin invaded a sovereign neighboring country. Saying both countries do "bad acts" is nonsense. ONE INVADED THE OTHER!

56 posted on 03/29/2022 4:45:20 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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To: Gaffer

Re: 25 - If we can answer fully the Powell Doctrine’s eight questions, that would be a start.

https://mwi.usma.edu/is-the-powell-doctrine-dead-and-gone/


57 posted on 03/29/2022 4:46:24 AM PDT by Fury
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To: blueplum

I support Trump to the hilt. I also support Ukraine against Putin. Regardless of Trump’s opinion on that subject, I still support him. The survival of our Republic rests on destroying the DemocRat Party and the globalist RINOs and their oligarch funders.


58 posted on 03/29/2022 4:46:35 AM PDT by ZULU (HOOVER, FREEH, MUELLER, COMEY, WRAY, SUCCESSION OF STATISTS)
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To: tlozo
Please stop with that infantile nonsense. The U.S. doesn’t even protect “democracy” right here at home.

You’d think any Freeper with half a brain would get a clue about the leftist agenda of these globalist stooges when Bill Kristol went home to MSNBC and Max Boot went home to CNN.

59 posted on 03/29/2022 4:46:52 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Mr. Potato Head ... Mr. Potato Head! Back doors are not secrets.")
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To: Fury

1. Is a vital national security interest threatened?
2. Do we have a clear attainable objective?
3. Have the risks and costs been fully and frankly analyzed?
4. Have all other nonviolent policy means been fully exhausted?
5. Is there a plausible exit strategy to avoid endless entanglement?
6. Have the consequences of our action been fully considered?
7. Is the action supported by the American people?


60 posted on 03/29/2022 4:47:35 AM PDT by Fury
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