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How Can Ketanji Brown Jackson Rule In Sex Discrimination Cases If She Can’t Define ‘Woman’?
The Federalist ^ | 03/24/2022 | Kyle Sammin

Posted on 03/24/2022 9:19:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

If trial courts must call on ‘biologists’ every time the subject of sex comes up, it is hard to see how justice can be done.

Judicial confirmation hearings are rarely illuminating. Since the introduction of television cameras, they mostly serve as a way for senators to say what they want their constituents to hear and for judicial nominees to say as little as possible. Nothing is learned, at least not on purpose.

But occasionally, we learn something by accident. At Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson’s confirmation hearing on Tuesday, Sen. Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee asked a seemingly innocuous question: “Can you provide a definition of the word ‘woman’?”

The nominee was unable to do so.

It might seem like a question that goes more to politics than to the job of a judge, but when sex discrimination is frequently before the court — including as recently as last year in Bostock v. Clayton County — it behooves a judge to have some inkling about what “sex” means.

Blackburn’s questioning began with a reference to the 1996 case of United States v. Virginia, in which the Supreme Court struck down the Virginia Military Institute’s policy of only admitting men by a 7-1 vote, with Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg writing the opinion of the court. (You can watch the testimony here, beginning at about 13:10:00.) Blackburn quoted from that opinion, specifically to Ginsburg’s point that “[p]hysical differences between men and women, however, are enduring: ‘[T]he two sexes are not fungible; a community made up exclusively of one [sex] is different from a community composed of both.’”

“Do you agree with Justice Ginsburg,” Blackburn asked, “that there are physical differences between men and women that are enduring?”

It sounds like a softball — even young children know that there are physical differences between men and women. Jackson knows it, too. Everyone in that room knows it. But she declined to admit it.

“I am not familiar with that particular quote or case,” she said, which strains credulity. Had she committed that line to memory? Probably not. But to be unfamiliar with a landmark case, the most consequential majority opinion Justice Ginsburg ever authored? United States v. Virginia was surely a topic of discussion in 1996, Jackson’s third year of law school, where she was an editor of the Harvard Law Review. It beggars belief to say she was unfamiliar with it entirely.

The senator pressed on: “Do you interpret Justice Ginsburg’s meaning of ‘men and women’ as ‘male and female’?”

Judge Jackson demurred. “Again, because I don’t know the case, I don’t know how I interpret it.”

So Blackburn made it even simpler: “Can you provide a definition of the word ‘woman’?”

Again, Jackson pretended to not understand something that people have understood since the beginning of time.

“I can’t,” she said. “Not in this context, I’m not a biologist.”

The problem of pretending “sex” and “gender” are indefinable terms bears heavily on decades of anti-discrimination jurisprudence. Reading further into Ginsburg’s opinion in U.S. v. Virginia, it is clear that her arguments for legal equality between the sexes are nonetheless premised on the idea that there are two separate sexes.

‘Inherent differences’ between men and women, we have come to appreciate, remain cause for celebration, but not for denigration of the members of either sex or for artificial constraints on an individual’s opportunity. Sex classifications may be used to compensate women ‘for particular economic disabilities [they have] suffered,’ to ‘promot[e] equal employment opportunity,’ to advance full development of the talent and capacities of our Nation’s people. But such classifications may not be used, as they once were, to create or perpetuate the legal, social, and economic inferiority of women. (internal citations omitted)

The Supreme Court in the VMI case noted that men and women were different and noted further there are circumstances in which that difference can matter in law. Ginsburg’s point, and that of the six justices who signed on to her opinion, was that it did not matter in that case.

The court’s ruling was not that there was no difference between men and women, or that there was a difference, but no one could possibly know what it was. It was that men and women do have “inherent differences,” but that the state should not discriminate on that basis absent some “exceedingly persuasive justification.”

To say that the definitions of “man” and “woman” are unknowable absent some expert training in biology is to turn the whole precedent on its head. Justice Neil Gorsuch’s opinion in Bostock last year already degraded this principle, stretching the meaning of sex discrimination to cover discriminating against someone based on “traits or actions it would not have questioned in members of a different sex.” But even that reimagining of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act still hangs on the idea that the classifications known as “man” and “woman” exist and are knowable.

If sex is unknowable, how can a law against sex discrimination be enforced? If an element of the offense is literally indefinable, the law must fail under the “void for vagueness” doctrine.

First explained in Connally v. General Construction Co.in 1926 and upheld many times since, the doctrine requires that laws be clear if they are not to violate the due process clause. A law “must be sufficiently explicit to inform those who are subject to it what conduct on their part will render them liable to its penalties.” Therefore, “a statute which either forbids or requires the doing of an act in terms so vague that men of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning and differ as to its application violates the first essential of due process of law.”

Until recently, no one would say that the definition of “woman” was something “so vague that men of common intelligence must necessarily guess at its meaning,” but Judge Jackson seems to disagree. What would this mean for our sex discrimination laws, where being unable to define “sex” makes it impossible to determine if the law even applies to a situation? If trial courts need to call expert “biologists” every time the subject of sex comes up, it is hard to see how justice can be done.

Fortunately, this is all a lie, not a genuine misunderstanding.

Judge Jackson, like Blackburn, is a woman, and she knows exactly what that means. Bowing down to the postmodernists’ mystery cult is something prominent people on the left deem politically necessary, but should a future Justice Jackson be called upon to decide a case in which a woman was paid less than a man for the same job, her recollection of the definition of “woman” will be magically restored.

But that does not solve the problem. The point of voiding vague laws is that the vagueness means they will be interpreted based on the whims of the state, not a neutral principle. Knowing what it means one moment and pretending not to the next introduces vagueness where none existed before, and with the same effect: the growth of arbitrary state power.

Ignoring facts leads to ignoring laws. Jackson’s misstep on this point undermined the idea that she would rule neutrally on politically sensitive matters and threatens to introduce a dangerous arbitrariness to American jurisprudence.


Kyle Sammin is a senior contributor to The Federalist and the co-host of the Conservative Minds podcast podcast. Follow him on Twitter at @KyleSammin.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Indiana; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: gender; genderdysphoria; homosexualagenda; indiana; kbj; ketanji; ketanjibrownjackson; paulryan; petebuttigieg; scotus; whatisawoman; wisconsin; woman
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1 posted on 03/24/2022 9:19:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

She can define it. She didn’t disclose her definition.


2 posted on 03/24/2022 9:19:53 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: SeekAndFind

Who cares? She could say there are 57 genders that are impossible to determine in a finite fashion at any moment in time... and she’ll still be confirmed. Behold, the power of being a black woman.

What was all that garbage about white privilege?


3 posted on 03/24/2022 9:22:29 AM PDT by brownsfan (It's going to take real, serious, hard times to wake the American public.)
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To: oblomov

It’s incredible how you have Dick Durbin coming out and saying some of the questions to Judge Jackson have been teetering near the line.

What the h-ll were you guys doing with Kavanaugh? And what were you doing questioning Amy Coney Barrett’s faith? What were you doing?”

Really, Jackson Has Suffered Nothing Compared To What Democrats Put Kavanaugh Through.

The truth is Republicans Are Pursuing Legitimate Questions About Ketanji Brown Jackson. They’re not going after baseless claims of sexual infidelity. They’re not going after her faith and trying to make a character out of this judge as some creature from the handmaid’s tale. They’re not asking whether she liked beer in college.

They want to know her JUDICIAL PHILOSOPHY and that is where the questioned were focused on. Unfortunately, Ketanji was ALARMINGLY EVASIVE in answering these legitimate questions.

Those are grounds for disqualification.


4 posted on 03/24/2022 9:23:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
As I posted yesterday:

When this woke nominee refused to define "woman", saying she's not a biologist, I would have followed with:

"So, you will recuse yourself from any cases involving biology?"

"You will recuse yourself from any cases involving "gender equity" or "when does life begin?" because you're not a biologist?"

5 posted on 03/24/2022 9:25:43 AM PDT by G Larry (Tolerance will rise until intelligent people are banned from thinking to avoid offending imbeciles)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would have loved to see a follow a up question asking if she was a man or a woman and how does she know.


6 posted on 03/24/2022 9:26:08 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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To: SeekAndFind

Republicans are baffled that Ketanji Brown Jackson can’t say what a woman is: ‘It is a simple question’:

Sen. Marsha Blackburn calls Jackson’s refusal to answer the question ‘telling’!

If this alphabetical BLM chunk of left wing proto~plasma becomes a Supreme, and she is unable to say, “What is a woman!”:

So, if she lies about this simple question or isn’t smart enough to tell us what a woman is.

She will be totally worthless as a Supreme or as an honorable human being!
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Case CLOSED: Attorney Harmeet K Dhillon looks at KBJ’s refusal to define a woman from a LEGAL perspective in d*mning thread
Twitchy.com ^ | 3/23/2022 | Sam J.
Posted on 3/23/2022, 10:22:20 AM by NetAddicted

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Simple answer is any human being with XX pair chromosomes is a woman and those with XY chromosome pairs is a male. Intent or desire to work around that reality is a mental state of gender psychosis. If that’s one’s adult choice, have at it. I want my Zebra to have polka-dots.

8 posted on 3/23/2022, 10:31:17 AM by blackdog (Today’s “disinformation” most often turns out to be tomorrow’s facts. )
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If you can get people to deny the absolute truth of male vs female, then you can get them to accept whatever the government defines as truth. 1984 has arrived and Winston is hard at work at ministry of truth.

28 posted on 3/23/2022, 11:37:14 AM by redangus

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Democrats Nominate a Soft on Crime Person for the Supreme Court:
https://townhall.com/columnists/johnrlottjr/2022/03/23/democrats-nominate-a-soft-on-crime-person-for-the-supreme-court-n2604922

If a criminal figures out a more effective way to break into people’s homes to steal more, should he receive a lighter sentence per dollar of what he steals? Biden’s nominee for the U.S. Supreme Court, Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson, certainly thinks so.

The legal system doesn’t normally work that way. If a rapist rapes two women, he gets two sentences, one for each crime. Each crime a criminal gets convicted for gets a separate penalty. That has traditionally been true for child pornography, where more pictures of children mean crimes have been committed.

In testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday, Jackson discussed concerns raised primarily by Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) that she was lenient on people who had child pornography. Hawley pointed out that as a judge, there were seven cases where she gave sentences below what was recommended by the federal sentencing guidelines. As a member of the U.S. Sentencing Commission, she also pushed to lower the penalties for child pornography.

John R. Lott, Jr.
John Lott is the president of the Crime Prevention Research Center and the author most recently of “The War on Guns.”


7 posted on 03/24/2022 9:26:18 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Playing “Make Believe” is for liberal adults/children. It is past time to grow up!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I would ask if she is a woman and how does she know


8 posted on 03/24/2022 9:26:34 AM PDT by dila813
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To: SeekAndFind

There was a post the other day detailing all the Court Decisions she made while Using the Term “Woman” in her decision, Shouldn’t every last one be Overturned and sent back to the Courts for a Re-Hearing???


9 posted on 03/24/2022 9:28:06 AM PDT by eyeamok (founded in cynicism, wrapped in sarcasm)
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To: SeekAndFind

She can, she just is not telling us what she is going to do.


10 posted on 03/24/2022 9:28:15 AM PDT by Pikachu_Dad ("the media are selling you a line of soap)
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To: SeekAndFind

She can’t, but thy doesn’t matter. She is black and fills all.the checkmarks of liberalism, so,the uniparty,is fine with filling a quota just for just for sake of appearing al. Inclusive. Credentials and abilities be damned.


11 posted on 03/24/2022 9:29:21 AM PDT by Bob434
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Easy. In any dispute, the person with the biggest boobs wins.


12 posted on 03/24/2022 9:30:44 AM PDT by dsrtsage ( Complexity is just simple lacking imagination)
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To: SeekAndFind

I refuse to waste any precious energy getting invested in this charade. She’s as good as confirmed.

Let’s just pray for justice Thomas’ recovery.


13 posted on 03/24/2022 9:31:40 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: SeekAndFind

Ouch


14 posted on 03/24/2022 9:35:16 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: brownsfan

A Trump nominee giving similar answers would’ve been forced to withdraw by now, with Republicans leading the charge.


15 posted on 03/24/2022 9:35:21 AM PDT by daler
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To: SeekAndFind

Just think - if confirmed, kbj will shatter the glass ceiling once and for all!


16 posted on 03/24/2022 9:39:00 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (< < Wandering aimfully > >)
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To: oblomov

” . . . [t]he point of voiding vague laws is that the vagueness means they will be interpreted based on the whims of the state . . .”
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Judge Jackson’s refusal to answer the question asked by Sen. Blackburn is telling as to the Judge’s overall judicial philosophy. The Judge made it clear by her refusal that she views the Constitution as a living and breathing document that has no fixed meaning but changes with the times. If that is her philosophy, then once on the Court she will join the other liberal justices, as well as some of the so-called conservatives, in continuing to dismantle the settled interpretations of the Constitution to fit the times and the whims of the political class.


17 posted on 03/24/2022 9:40:44 AM PDT by JGPhila
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To: SeekAndFind

Refusing to define something so fundamental as what is a woman should be immediate disqualification for such an crucial position.


18 posted on 03/24/2022 9:40:52 AM PDT by Aria
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To: SeekAndFind

Technically, she should base it on not on the evidence and testimony presented to her and the court.


19 posted on 03/24/2022 9:41:15 AM PDT by joesbucks
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How Can Ketanji Brown Jackson Rule In Sex Discrimination Cases If She Can’t Define ‘Woman’?

I assume it would depend on what the case was. What other Supreme Court cases have there been where the court was required to define gender?

20 posted on 03/24/2022 9:41:58 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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