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Byzantine and Orthodox church historian Henry Hopwood-Philipps reckons NATO and all those who stand against Putin’s klepto-theocratic regime are in for a long wait. “The information war, the military war against Putin looks to be effective,” Hopwood-Philipps says. “But for all the West’s digital gunpowder, we’re up against nearly 700 years of a deeply entrenched otherworldly belief system.”

As the patriarch sees it, Ukrainians are sinners. “Many people out of weakness, stupidity, ignorance and most often a willingness to justify sin condemned by the Bible is a test of our ability to profess faith in our Savior,” Kirill has told his flock.

1 posted on 03/22/2022 9:39:43 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Patriarch Kirill is a traditionalist.
Traditionalists believe in an older order of things, prior to the upending of their society.
It informs Putin as to why he has to try and rebuild the Soviet Union, because he thinks the Soviet Union was Russia’s height of civilization


2 posted on 03/22/2022 9:43:02 PM PDT by Jonty30 ( I am an extremely responsible person. When something goes wrong, my boss asks if I was responsible.)
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Ra ra…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WhPvJOnHotE


3 posted on 03/22/2022 9:48:37 PM PDT by Allegra
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Onward Christian Soldiers.


4 posted on 03/22/2022 9:59:46 PM PDT by windsorknot
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This is a spectacularly dishonest article.

The author pulls the same trick twice — inserting a word that wasn’t there to twist the meaning of the original quote.

The line about sinners applies to all humanity according to Orthodox Christianity. But the journalist twist it to pretend the church leader thinks only Ukrainians are sinners. Well guess what most of the Ukrainians are Orthodox and most of those are affiliated with this religious leader who they falsely accuse of “wanting to destroy ukraine” and thinking they are uniquely a sinful people.

All the articles that use this line have exactly the same two misquotes and misattributions...


7 posted on 03/22/2022 10:13:22 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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“The Russian people will be able to distinguish true patriots from scum and traitors and spit them out like a midge that accidentally flew into their mouths.”

I wish Trump had said that, but that would have been too embarrassing because he picked a lot of them.

8 posted on 03/22/2022 10:18:57 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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That patriarch is a KGB hack.


11 posted on 03/22/2022 10:28:18 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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I can’t believe that this is a religious war also. Are these Catholic ruled by Pope Francis in Rome?


15 posted on 03/22/2022 10:48:03 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Leftnicks chase illusions of motherships at the end of the pier.)
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Hey SeekAndFind,

Here is the original document the author drew from in his article.

You can see the first quote from the journalist is a complete fabrication.

For the second quote, the journalist’s preface twists the intended meaning to the exact opposite of what the speech says. He doesn’t say “we are sin-free and justified and they are evil”. He says the opposite, that we must all identify and move past sin with God’s help.

“we must repent of our own sins. Approach your life with a very deep and impartial analysis, ask yourself what is good and what is bad, and in no case justify yourself, they say, I quarreled with this or that, because they were wrong . This is a false argument, this is the wrong approach. One must always ask before God: Lord, what have I done wrong? And if the Lord helps us to realize our own untruth, then repent of this untruth.”

here is a link to the full translated speech, I hope you read it:

https://www-patriarchia-ru.translate.goog/db/text/5906442.html?_x_tr_sch=http&_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp

The Speech also serves as a strong refutation of the jokers in this thread who think the Patriarch is a strong advocate of liberation theology.


17 posted on 03/22/2022 11:01:26 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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Deus Vult 2.0......


18 posted on 03/22/2022 11:11:49 PM PDT by cranked
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A new world order is born before our very eyes,” is how Putin described the relationship in a statement published at the start of the war, later warning those who disagreed with him “inflict maximum damage on people.

Putin? A new world order? Wait, what?

20 posted on 03/22/2022 11:47:46 PM PDT by windsorknot
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Satan’s Church.


21 posted on 03/22/2022 11:52:55 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will. )
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Ukrainians are sinners.

They have proven themselves opportunistic looters. The remainders are absolute trash.

26 posted on 03/23/2022 12:33:04 AM PDT by Reeses
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So much for holy men..they don’t exist


34 posted on 03/23/2022 3:25:48 AM PDT by aces (and )
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The Russian Orthodox Church has been a corrupt state organ since Lenin .


36 posted on 03/23/2022 3:45:57 AM PDT by Kozak (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TV)
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Russian Orthodox Patriarch Kirill enthusiastic support of Putin’s brutal invasion of Ukraine shows that Kirill follows Putin not God.


43 posted on 03/23/2022 5:21:25 AM PDT by tlozo (Trump-the Russian invasion of Ukraine is " truly a crime against humanity")
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No mention of the vile Antichrist Pope or JP2.


44 posted on 03/23/2022 5:22:41 AM PDT by nonliberal (Z.)
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I’m guessing that the Unibomber is Biden’s Rasputin.

The church of Russia vs the church of global warming should be an interesting fight.


51 posted on 03/23/2022 7:43:56 AM PDT by sergeantdave
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Russians on Sunday don’t put enough in the collection plate.

Ukranian collection is required to sustain the power of this Shamen


56 posted on 03/23/2022 8:58:10 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. N.C. +12) Promoting Afro Heritage diversity will destroy the democrats)
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If he has a biblical understanding, there are a few reasons why I can see Putin seeing himself in a sort of holy war to protect his Russia.

Given our world’s generalized decadence and what the US and the West value now and mandate for our own and promote to the world, and what all of this is doing to our societies as a result, God would judge him for not fighting to keep it from taking Russia, too, and then he and Russia would also share in this/our Judgment.

Our sins are greater than those of Sodom and Gomorrah, and we have no reason nor excuse for it, given how Truth is easy to seek and so easily found, so Putin could be in a holy war against this NWO evil not unlike in the OT.

And, even the Pope seems to be of that same mind now, too! If Catholics are wondering if the Pope’s Catholic, you can bet Putin and the Orthodox are wondering the same thing.

Fwiw, the religious competition for being right and the one Daddy loves best is strong between the West and the East.

Given all of that, I have to wonder if Putin wasn’t given enough threatening reasons from the NWO types operating in Ukraine such that he had to do something. He gave a long warning before acting.

Ultimately, given Biden’s recent election steal, the same entity seems to have fully taken over the American government now, too, along with GB and western Europe, and has also been very busy in Ukraine’s government and society for a long time as well.

I’m guessing “they” have been courting Putin for a long time and have offered him many sweet deals, like with that uranium deal.

But, “they” have a plan and a schedule to keep and he wasn’t going their way far enough or fast enough, so “they” pushed him via Ukraine? Things are happening very fast in our world now, like we’re on the downhill and picking up speed.

Whatever is happening, I am praying for everybody as I look for God’s Hand in all of it, and all while remembering the Old Testament examples of His purifying or removing unrepentant nations and pondering how His Ways are not our ways and how His Laws and priorities should be ours, too, but we like Satan’s and our stuff better.

57 posted on 03/23/2022 10:20:39 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere)
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