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As gas prices rise, towns add electric car charging stations
The Associated Press ^ | March 21, 2022 | By WAYNE PARRY

Posted on 03/21/2022 12:44:40 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: cgbg

“We finally met a live human being that owned an electric vehicle.

We asked them what the range was per full battery charge.

Their answer:

84 miles.”

I own an EV. Ford Mach e, AWD, standard battery. Charging to 90% and not letting it go below 20% (recommended for battery life) gives me between 100 - 120 miles effective range per day. I charge it in my garage.

It’s a great commuter car. NOT a long-trip vehicle. It should never, ever be your only car. But the daily drives, which are hardest on ICE vehicles and give the worst mileage, are perfect for EV’s.

When you see a “free” charging spot it was because of local zoning laws. That said, if THE FREE MARKET adds more chargers the parking lots of malls and shopping centers make sense. They’ve already got the AC requirements handled and have plenty of parking spots.

I am 100% AGAINST any government mandated charging stations.


41 posted on 03/21/2022 1:24:06 PM PDT by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

All good, until they have very spotty electricity reliability, and their summers are filled with air conditioning losses and hot sticky summers.


42 posted on 03/21/2022 1:26:18 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The average household income and poverty level in Asbury Park don’t suggest a market for this.

Who paid with whose money to put them there?


43 posted on 03/21/2022 1:26:29 PM PDT by mewzilla (We need to repeal RCV wherever it's in use and go back to dumb voting machines.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

https://insideevs.com/news/574451/ev-range-test-20-percent-drop-winter/


44 posted on 03/21/2022 1:27:17 PM PDT by AJFavish (www.allanfavish.com)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Why don’t the libs hate this cross-subsidy from the poor to the rich?

Because limo liberals are rich and the rest of us are poor by comparison.

It is the same reason Black Lives Matter burns down black owned businesses when they riot along with anything else in their path.

45 posted on 03/21/2022 1:27:57 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
On Monday, New Jersey officials awarded $1 million in grants to install electric vehicle charging stations in 24 tourist areas around the state. The idea was to help spur tourism by reassuring visitors who own electric vehicles that they can come to a vacation spot in New Jersey and not run out of power to get back home.

That isn't going to do diddly squat. A high end fast charging station with 8 stalls likely comes close a million bucks.

46 posted on 03/21/2022 1:28:28 PM PDT by EVO X ( )
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47 posted on 03/21/2022 1:28:37 PM PDT by Varsity Flight ( "War by the prophesies set before you." I Timothy 1:18)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

The government people in charge of reorganizing GM after the bailout had zero experience in either the automotive field or business. Their idea was that people didn’t buy small fuel-efficient cars because GM didn’t build them. They ignored that you could go to any car lot and find a bunch of them, and no one was buying them. One of the things they did was dedicate an entire factory to the Volt, which had to be shut down because they soon had a huge inventory of unsold Volts. Now the theory is that people don’t buy electric cars because there are so few places to recharge them. Well, maybe. But most likely it’s because time is money and nobody has the time to wait hours to recharge adding days to what should be a ten hour drive by gas car.


48 posted on 03/21/2022 1:29:11 PM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud. Sorry.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If you are lucky enough to own your own home: It costs between $1,500 and $4,500 to mount a new station, install a new service panel, do wiring, and equip it with a 240-volt outlet.

the charging station it’s self costs from 300 to $4,500.

A gas can (portable charger) is $500 on UP!!!


49 posted on 03/21/2022 1:30:00 PM PDT by Harpotoo (Being a socialist is a lot easier than having to WORK like the rest of US:-))
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To: nesnah

“Further, how can a store that earns a great deal off high traffic revenue survive in this business model?”

Except for Costco and Sam’s Club I rarely see more than 3-6 cars at a gas station and they are surviving.

Half their customers are NOT getting gas and half those getting gas never go inside.


50 posted on 03/21/2022 1:30:41 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

…….until China stops delivering batteries.


51 posted on 03/21/2022 1:31:42 PM PDT by Chgogal (Whatever Biden decides to do, do the opposite.)
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To: nesnah
Further, how can a store that earns a great deal off high traffic revenue survive in this business model?

On the hopes that the EV owner will waltz in and buy a $5 latte while their car is charging. Wawa, Sheetz, Speedway and a few other gas stations sell food and drinks superior to anything served at Starbucks. We even go there sometimes for quality fast food.

52 posted on 03/21/2022 1:32:22 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the U.S. were ever to go full-electric, for cars and trucks and whatever else...

You can bet that our enemies would take advantage of that, and that they would use fossil=fuels to their advantage, including powering all of their military vehicles with diesel and gasoline. We would be stuck with ineffective military and civilian vehicles, making us vulnerable economically and militarily.

Besides, if the whole U.s. were to be dependent on electrically charging our vehicles, you can bet that someone would find a way to knock out our electric grids, and then, we would be crippled for just about everything.

The best way to stay economically viable, for the economy and for everyday civilian use, is to have millions of independent engines powered by fossil-fuels. Our safety and independence and security, are all at stake.

But, democrats are not the thinking types and what matters to them is control, which they hope to achieve through their climate change agenda. But, even they would soon rue the day that they vilified fossil fuels.


53 posted on 03/21/2022 1:32:37 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And the next headline will be:

As consumer electric prices rise out of control.......


54 posted on 03/21/2022 1:32:38 PM PDT by Revel
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To: nascarnation

“Well it might be “free” to the user but somebody is paying for the juice. Taxpayers?”

Users pay.


55 posted on 03/21/2022 1:35:14 PM PDT by TexasGator (UF)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
One was waxing lyrical at a family party at how he loved the “hands free driving”. I would never trust anything like that.

The only way I would ever see doing it would be just for an instant while I picked up something I dropped or looked for my clip-on shades or something in the glove compartment. Otherwise it sounds very dangerous.

56 posted on 03/21/2022 1:38:00 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (11/3-11/4/2020 - The USA became a banana republic.)
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To: nascarnation

I see lots of Tesla EV’s on I-5 north of Seattle.

A Tesla cannot make it from Seattle to Spokane without a charging stop. What will you do when you stop at some small town enroute on I-90 and there are 30 EV’s lined up awaiting a charge?

Can you imagine trying to visit Yellowstone driving a Tesla?


57 posted on 03/21/2022 1:38:03 PM PDT by Gnome1949
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To: Gaffer

thank you... the same point i made in the paper when a local town did the same thing last fall

if it’s soooo good, it will sell, if not


58 posted on 03/21/2022 1:41:14 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: adorno

You’ve touched upon the strategy that the ChiComs are implementing.

Direct civilians to electric cars powered by coal power plants.

Save the petroleum for military.


59 posted on 03/21/2022 1:48:42 PM PDT by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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There’s a mall by me where the charging is free. I think they do it to be hip, happening, cool,..

Yeah, I've seen that done at movie theaters recently. They're doing it as an enticement. Surely the overpriced movie tickets, popcorn and drinks can cover a few kilowatt-hours, just to get some butts back in those seats. If business picks up again, post-Covid, I expect the free charging to quickly vanish.

60 posted on 03/21/2022 1:49:55 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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