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Russia, China and the New Cold War
Wall Street Journal Opinion ^ | March 18, 2022 | Adam O’Neal

Posted on 03/20/2022 2:21:13 PM PDT by silent majority rising

Russia’s invasion of Ukraine has brought death, destruction and debate over historical analogies. Is this the summer of 1914, with great powers stumbling into a horrific global conflict? Or is it the Nazi-Soviet invasion of Poland in 1939? What about Moscow’s 1939-40 Winter War against Finland? Will Vladimir Putin’s gambit end like the Soviet Union’s 1979-89 misadventure in Afghanistan?

Matt Pottinger has been thinking of another conflict. Mr. Putin’s attempted conquest, and his burgeoning partnership with China’s Xi Jinping, reminds Mr. Pottinger of the Korean War. “In 1950, Stalin and Mao and Kim Il Sung badly miscalculated how easy the invasion would be and miscalculated American resolve, much as we’re seeing today,” Mr. Pottinger, 48, who served in the Trump White House’s National Security Council, says this week. “The roles are now reversed, with Xi playing the role of Stalin and Putin playing the role of Mao sending his troops to the slaughter. It’s even conceivable that this war may end in a similar fashion, with some kind of a stalemate in a divided country.”

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Excellent Article in the WSJ about the Cold War in 1945, and the new Cold War (hopefully stays cold) of 2022.
1 posted on 03/20/2022 2:21:13 PM PDT by silent majority rising
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To: silent majority rising

The Russian trolls will be along to mindlessly insult you for posting this in 3...2....1....


2 posted on 03/20/2022 2:28:23 PM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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To: MercyFlush

It presents a viewpoint that I had not heard in our ‘vaunted’ legacy media (sarc intended).


3 posted on 03/20/2022 2:34:48 PM PDT by silent majority rising ( )
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To: MercyFlush

Biden is a Putin puppet.


4 posted on 03/20/2022 2:37:48 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: MercyFlush

“The Russian trolls will be along to mindlessly insult you for posting this in 3...2....1....”

Not yet. Are you sure they’re coming? Please point them out as they arrive. Thanks!


5 posted on 03/20/2022 2:40:02 PM PDT by Born in 1950 (Anti left, nothing else.)
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To: MercyFlush

Why are you Russian troll if you don’t swallow the pro Ukraine propaganda?


6 posted on 03/20/2022 2:45:16 PM PDT by SACK UP
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To: SACK UP

Russia is just a paranoid nation. They’d look for enemies if they were free and capitalist.


7 posted on 03/20/2022 2:46:42 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: SACK UP

I don’t know. Why do you think you’re a Russian troll?


8 posted on 03/20/2022 2:52:39 PM PDT by MercyFlush (I don't follow the science. I follow the money. )
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To: MercyFlush

Opinions are like certain body parts...everyone has one.

Some are based on facts, others on feelings.


9 posted on 03/20/2022 3:02:37 PM PDT by zek157
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To: silent majority rising
...Mr. Putin’s attempted conquest, and his burgeoning partnership with China’s Xi Jinping, reminds Mr. Pottinger of the Korean War. “In 1950, Stalin and Mao and Kim Il Sung badly miscalculated how easy the invasion would be and miscalculated American resolve, much as we’re seeing today"...

It has been pointed out to me that the 'Budapest Memorandum on Security Assurances' apparently specifies that the parties (including the US) seek immediate UN Security Council action, in the event that Ukraine was invaded. If the US actually does that and gets a military commitment from the UN to intervene in Ukraine, then the comparison to Korea might become more appropriate...

10 posted on 03/20/2022 3:04:31 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Didn’t a certain administration in the early 90s make certain they sold all government assets for kopeks on the ruble and become capitalist? I’m fairly certain there were a couple advisors sent there that helped them in this endeavor. It was all very altruistic.


11 posted on 03/20/2022 3:05:44 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Who is John Galt?

The US shuld actually do that. Of course this time Russia won’t be out in a snit and will veto.


12 posted on 03/20/2022 3:13:36 PM PDT by arthurus (o covfefe )
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To: silent majority rising

That’s the same thought I had, a new viewpoint. Being a student of Russian history I went straight to the Finnish debacle, but the Korean one really comes a lot closer to events on both the strategic and tactical level. The only issue is that there is not a large scale supplier of extra troops like Vietnam and Korea both had.

Although there could be fresh infusions of troops on the Ukrainian side from the former Soviet countries. They might like the idea of taking Mother Russia down a peg.


13 posted on 03/20/2022 3:16:22 PM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Who is John Galt?

I read that Russia, being a permanant member of the Security Council, vetoed any UN action.


14 posted on 03/20/2022 3:35:53 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: Who is John Galt?

https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/reuters/russia-vetoes-u-n—security-action-on-ukraine-as-china-abstains/47382582


15 posted on 03/20/2022 3:40:12 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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Entirely predictable, I guess...


16 posted on 03/20/2022 3:45:00 PM PDT by Who is John Galt? ("...mit Pulver und Blei, Die Gedanken sind frei!")
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To: silent majority rising

The Scissors strategy transforms into that of “one clenched fist”.... Anatoliy Golitsyn.


17 posted on 03/20/2022 3:54:32 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: wbarmy

Pooty poot is pulling mercenaries from Central Asia.


18 posted on 03/20/2022 3:55:31 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: MercyFlush

You’re the troll you 🤡. You’ve been here a year and you have the balls to call longtime members trolls and your goofy troll watch schtick. GFY.


19 posted on 03/20/2022 3:57:50 PM PDT by Levy78
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To: Who is John Galt?
Looks like the General Assembly will take it up.

Possibly, a sternly worded letter will ensue.

20 posted on 03/20/2022 4:10:14 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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