Unrelated to Ukraine ………. Utter BS……. There would be no exercises if not for Ukraine!!!
Osprey again
What’s the death toll? Must be several dozen by now.
BS
The Osprey is a piece of junk. If one were parked on the tarmac with engines off and the keys in my pocket I still wouldn’t get on board. 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻
I didn’t know the army flew ospreys. Idiot reporters.
Ospreys are not known for reliability.
Dear Idiot journalists,
Could you please give the Marines the respect they have earned and quit calling them soldiers?
Thanks
Four dead in NATO.
Why is it so hard to distinguish between Marines and soldiers? 4 MARINES died. My husband flew the CH46 for a couple decades and retired right as the Marine Corps started transitioning to the Osprey. We lost several friends in the early years of the Osprey’s replacing the CH46’s. Some pretty horrific crashes. Semper fi to the Marines who lost their lives in this accident.
Prayers for the families of those soldiers.
If EU won’t pony up their share of cost,maybe it’s time we consider withdrawing.
Always so hard to hear. Strength and courage for the families and friends.
C'mon FReepers, the Osprey is HEAVILY used for training purposes. At least one or two V-22's fly over my house DAILY. Very heavily used throughout the country and abroad.
I'd say it has a fairly good track record as of late, considering its wide usage.
When was the Marines last training accident in Norway?
The military knows that there are unavoidable safety risks inherent in Osprey operation. They also have decided that the tilt-rotor provides operational capabilities that balance out the unavoidable costs, including peacetime losses of life.
It can continue flying (sort of) in the event of an engine failure because there’s a cross-over power shaft connecting the two engines. So if one engine poops the bed, the other engine takes over powering the rotors on both sides of the aircraft.
However, depending on aircraft weight and performance planning factors, thew power from a single engine might not (and probably won’t) be enough to allow it to maintain altitude. It might even be forced to land, but the power from the operating engine will give them a more leisurely rate of descent so they have more time to select the optimal landing site.
If both engines go out, you’d much rather be in a real airplane or a real helicopter because the Osprey can’t make an autorative landing, and it also has a horrible glide ratio.
Forward air speed might keep the rotors spinning, just like in a helicopter, but the rotors lack sufficient mass, nor have the controls been designed so an autorotative touch-down can be executed. Why not? According to Boeing, because the gummint didn’t tell them to.
So all that’s left is to glide home, and the V-22 (with both engines inop) has a glide ration of about 3:1. For reference, at landing speeds the Space Shuttle’s glide ration was 4.5:1. Except the STS had all manner of electronic instrumentation (and a PAR back-up) to make sure it remained on the optimal glide slope so it would arrive at the landing threshold at the appropriate airspeed and altitude.
So a “dead stick” landing in a V-22 won’t so much be a landing as it will be “an arrival.”
In anticipation of a non-soft, all-engines-inop landing, Boeing designed the Osprey to break apart so that the pieces that separate from the aircraft won’t endanger its occupants. Much the same as how the engine in a modern car is designed to ride underneath the chassis in the event of a head-on collision so the occupants are spared from the engine invading their living space. Even the rotors are designed to remain attached to the engines but to fold back on impact, like pipe cleaners, rather than shattering, separating from the engines, and slicing through the fuselage at 500 mph.
Boeing’s engineers state that if a V-22 were to experience a dual engine failure while hovering at 1600 feet above the ground, it probably wouldn’t be survivable because it would have too little time to generate enough airspeed so its stubby wings could make sufficient lift to cushion the fall.
But such a scenario isn’t likely because dual engine failures should be extremely rare (unless you’re being shot at) and Osprey pilots should know not to try hovering at 1600 AGL. Or get shot at.
Confessing my ignorance:
How does an American become a “U.N. Soldier”? Are they assigned to the U.N. by the U.S. Army? Do they volunteer?
When President Trump visited Maine a few years ago, he hosted a fishing symposium round table in a building at Bangor International Airport.
At the conclusion of the meeting, which was aired live on the ABC affiliate in Bangor but not the CBS affiliate, President Trump departed the area in an Osprey. My heart skipped a beat when I saw his plane depart on live television, because I knew the history of that aircraft.
Actually, two Osprey departed the scene....one was a decoy, the other aircraft was actually carrying the President.