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Exclusive-Russia's attack on Ukraine halts half of world's neon output for chips
Reuters via MSN ^ | March 11, 2022 | By Alexandra Alper

Posted on 03/11/2022 2:37:17 PM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

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To: PeterPrinciple

“Winner in our economy will be those that own the junkyard”.

That, and used economy cars.

I have four—three are awaiting restoration.

Seen the major leap in auctioned economy cars from the 60s and 70s? Bidding didn’t meet reserve at $10,000 on a Mercury Bobcat. (A Pinto, as produced by Mercury)

What happens to EVs given today’s chip supply chain?


21 posted on 03/12/2022 3:19:31 AM PST by Does so (Americans had no desire for war between 1939 and 1941. Rheinland? Sometimes War Finds YOU!)
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To: Williams

We would just buy it from Russia (land formerly Ukraine), if we didn’t have idiotic leaders. They are upset in an abnormal way about Ukraine. It is not organic.


22 posted on 03/12/2022 3:56:21 AM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: PghBaldy
They are upset in an abnormal way about Ukraine. It is not organic.

As Glen Beck has documented: after the coup Obama and co made themselves the guardians of billions of 'aid' money that US taxpayers sent to Ukraine - this money was then artfully lost through Privatbank and laundered.

I suspect that there is evidence in Ukraine that would sink them for ever.

But no doubt there's a whole other dimension to it that I'm not aware of.

23 posted on 03/12/2022 5:02:19 AM PST by agere_contra
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To: Does so

Bidding didn’t meet reserve at $10,000 on a Mercury Bobcat. (A Pinto, as produced by Mercury)


mpg wasn’t that good. 72 pinto wagon i had only got 20-21mpg.


24 posted on 03/12/2022 6:34:18 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: mcshot

Hey, I was close. Not exactly a shortage, but they’re shorting us our Doritos:
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/doritos-cuts-number-of-chips-in-each-bag-blames-bidenflation/


25 posted on 03/12/2022 7:44:23 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ted Kaczynski’s dreams are coming true...


26 posted on 03/12/2022 9:25:59 AM PST by EEGator
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To: Paul R.

Globalism bearing fruit all over.


27 posted on 03/12/2022 9:27:12 AM PST by EEGator
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To: PeterPrinciple
mpg wasn’t that good. 72 pinto wagon i had only got 20-21mpg.

My little '72 Pinto probably got 25-27, but had the excellent 2-liter engine, 4-speed, disks, Sears A/C, and carbureted.

I was so impressed with a quick run through the dealer's parking lot, I bought it within minutes. 'Cost $1 a pound, and weighed 2000 pounds.

Accustomed today with a 25-MPG small Nissan pickup, I'll be looking for a '72 Pinto/Bobcat wagon at the auctions. ;)

28 posted on 03/12/2022 5:26:59 PM PST by Does so (Americans had no desire for war between 1939 and 1941. Rheinland? Sometimes War Finds YOU!)
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To: Spktyr
Ukraine had made it available in such quantity and at such a low price for the past two decades that all the companies in the US that used to make the gear have either discontinued it long ago or the companies themselves are gone as there was simply no market in the US to sell to.

Yet another example of the idiocy of globalization. Shaved a few pennies off to boost the C-suite’s loot, but suddenly, oops!, we forgot that we’re depending upon an unstable part of the world and now we have nothing. Just look at all the problems Boeing has had with 787 components that were outsourced all around the world not fitting correctly when they tried to join them. But I’m sure the execs got a tidy sum for themselves for doing it.

We really need to find some way to redirect American companies back toward actually being American, and putting the nation’s strategic priorities before their own. Trump had it right: Tell companies that if they want to outsource, fine, but if they do they’ll pay steep tariffs for the privilege of selling those products back into the U.S. market.

29 posted on 03/12/2022 11:43:13 PM PST by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: noiseman

That’s actually one of the less important parts - if all we do is slam tariffs on goods, the only thing that will happen in many cases is the prices will go up and nothing else will change. That’s what happened when Reagan imposed the Harley tariff - and the end result is that motorcycles got more expensive, plus Harley is bleeding out now.

We need to look at all the things that caused manufacturing to flee the US, many of which *aren’t* actually just “it’s cheaper there”

1. We need to remove much of the insane regulation and permitting requirements. Basic health and safety, environmental conservation, etc., is fine and needed, but having to consider ESG before being allowed to get funding or start building anything????
2. We need to restart a lot of support industries. For example, the US basically no longer produces rare earths due in part to regulations. China produces lots of rare earths, but will not let them be exported in many cases. If you want to do something with the Chinese rare earths, you must build the product or component that uses it there. If a product you want to make has this situation, throwing tariffs at it isn’t going to do anything but either stop production or just drive the price up.
3. We need to reform the legal system so that awards are reasonable and frivolous suits don’t go forward - such as lawsuits that allege building a factory or producing goods is racial discrimination. Anything reasonably successful that is made in the US has the maker’s legal team’s costs baked into it. Not so much if the product is made by a foreign contract manufacturer.

One these and other problems are solved and production doesn’t move back, then yes, impose tariffs. I’ve been involved in a number of projects to manufacture a good in the US, both personally and professionally, and the regulatory and supply chain barrier to entry for the US is quite high. Pretty much every venture was forced to go with the product being made in part or in full from foreign components because it wasn’t possible to source from the US.


30 posted on 03/13/2022 12:00:27 AM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: blam

Ping.


31 posted on 03/14/2022 6:33:00 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

Got it. Thanks.


32 posted on 03/14/2022 10:18:36 AM PDT by blam
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