Posted on 03/11/2022 5:42:51 AM PST by Mount Athos
Ever since the ’90s, when my wife and I were on active duty, we witnessed the slow morphing of the US Army from a Conservative—and, yes, a male entity—into a much more liberal culture.
More than once, we discussed how the trend might eventually affect the Second Amendment. We considered what might happen if the federal government ordered the military to start going after the guns of civilians.
Our military is expected to obey orders unless they are unlawful, which is a tricky decision under the best of circumstances. All orders are presumed lawful, and disobedience is at the soldier’s peril. If a soldier believes the order to be unlawful and refuses it, but ultimately finds out that it was perfectly lawful, that soldier is held accountable for it.
Our general conclusion was that, in the early to mid-1990s, the Second Amendment was safe, but that in the coming decade or so, if the military continued its path to liberalization, we would likely have a military made up of troops willing to carry out an order to confiscate weapons.
My oldest son even decided to apply to West Point (his mother’s alma mater) until the forced COVID vaccinations of our troops were ordered. The vaccine mandate and the intensive focus on wokeness (gender and race training) seem intended to cull more conservative recruits from the ranks. Not to mention they risk unit cohesion and take time away from training that makes our troops effective and keeps them alive.
Our officers are mostly coming from ROTC at very woke, Liberal colleges. So, the trend continues and our traditionally conservative military culture continues to die out.
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They rule by intimidation. And it is obviously working well considering all the comments to this thread and topic...
When I find out that someone I know is a serving or former military officer, I often ask them if they believe that American soldiers would open fire on American citizens.
To a man, their answer was, “Yes, if their sergeant says open fire, the 19 year old grunt will open fire. That is what they are trained to do.”
I noticed the shift happened after Desert Storm. The Army began allowing individuality in soldiers. This started eroding at unit cohesion. Soon after this, unannounced room inspections became outlawed, followed by, no inspection without probale cause. (Major tool in unit control)
Many of the tools needed by leaders to instill and maintain discipline disappeared. (i.e., AWOL punishment reduction to a discharge)
On to the current state of affairs: open deviancy in the ranks with homosexuality and transsexualism. Our enemies must be quaking in their boots.
Then people will die, on both sides of that equation. There are more of US than there are of them. Some of US have skill sets that will over power men in high heels. We're old school.
That’s only partially true. Conservatives are not afraid. Fear isn’t really the issue.
There’s an embedded quirk in conservatism that precludes conservatives from engaging at all. Andrew Breitbart used to talk about this a little, and ultimately we all know his famous quotes:
“Politics is downstream from culture”
Most conservatives will not engage in culture. I can’t say for certain if conservatives simply don’t want it, or don’t know how. Instead, there will be a whole lot of waiting around until the next election cycle officially starts. All of this pent up energy explodes and gets poured into the political cycle, but the water of the culture river doesn’t stop flowing. We all know that lots of water is strong and heavy. And as soon as the election cycle is over, immediately everything shuts down. It’s like a ghost town. This is in part what did the Tea Party in. When the IRS was weaponized, that had the opposite effect of what it should have had. Everybody sat down instead of going back out and standing up again. The Tea Parties should’ve been bigger than ever after the IRS targeting. But it wasn’t. That here is the embedded quirk on full display.
It’s kind of a math problem when you think about it.
Progressives will use a full four years to advance their agenda between elections in cultural fights. That’s 8 six month cycles they have to play around with. Conservatives have a single 6 month window once primary season starts. The progressives have a 7 time advantage of 48 months to our 6. With this time advantage, progressives can afford to try things that work and things that don’t, and essentially waste time if they want. With our paltry 6 month window, we have to get it right every time as we only have that one shot. And all these efforts are limited to political campaigns.
We have about 3 more months before there’s a whole lot of a change in activity. For now, nobody has much of anything to do. Maybe there’s some phonebanking somewhere going on in some localities somewhere.
The apathetic quirk may be just plain laziness.
It’s easier to bitch and do nothing
The counterfire will come when they try to return home.
“Conservatives have a single 6 month window once primary season starts.”
When the ConservatIve’s 6-month period ends with a Stolen Election...Progressives win with a 8-0 blowout.
We are so screwed.
“To a man, their answer was, “Yes, if their sergeant says open fire, the 19 year old grunt will open fire. That is what they are trained to do.”
When I ask sergeants if they would obey orders from their CO to open fire on Americans, they all said the CO would get his brains blown out.
I have one foster son in the Army and two sons in the USMC. Your experience is exactly the opposite of mine and I ask nearly everyone that I come in contact with.
Good post.
Yep.
See my post right under yours.
Of course the perfumed princesses might feel differently but they won’t be the ones carrying out the orders.
I’m 89, locked and loaded. Lets go Brandon.
Conservatives will fight for their freedom. Doesn’t matter if the govt likes it or not
I’m 82.Same response.
ADDENDUM: They must think we are collectively insane. Yes?
Very quietly we go forth...that 2nd Amendment makes me cry and I will not allow it to be besmirched or denied.
“Most conservatives will not engage in culture. I can’t say for certain if conservatives simply don’t want it, or don’t know how.”
But they are. They are self censoring to capitulate with the culture of political correctness. Even here very few will talk about certain topics such as this one here for fear they will be branded as a domestic terrorist. But to be fair it is now a true concern that has been brought about through intimidation. And to be safe rather than sorry they are bowing to this intimidation.
Soon there will be no discussion from our side at all about these topics and we will forget what our principles are. If we do not use it we will lose it. We have come to a time where discussion platforms which are open for public viewing and searchability are actually suppressing free speech because of this intimidation and self censoring. Our purpose and principles will in turn suffer and disappear.
My accusation was about willingness to discuss certain topics. If this topic thread was not accessible by the general public there would already be fifty or more comments to it. But because it is, then it may as well be censored as political incorrectness because it put folks on the spot to choose between self incrimination or silence. The intimidation is working well just as it was planned, it has created self-denial of one’s own free speech.
Thanks for that comment. I guess that is where the buck really stops.
But, from time to time I think about Kent State or Waco Texas.
That's probably true, but I also think its more unknowing and not so much unwilling. It's certainly true that plenty more members of FR could do more to get away from Big Tech offerings from Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Amazon and simply choose to do nothing. However in fairness when Andrew gave conservatives ideas while he was alive, conservatives did go and implement them. I think Andrew is the singular reason why the Tea Party even happened because he ultimately put culture first.
I often use myself as an example because I can contrast the me before and the me after. In an effort to "get cultural" and use all 48 months instead of just waiting around for that 6 month window, I chose to begin recording open source audiobooks and putting them out for free.
I probably would not have done so if it wasn't for the Obama years and the never ending outrage. Day after day, it was one assault on our liberties after another. That and I was surrounded by Tea Party activists, we all drove to D.C. multiple times and went out on the lawn. But even with all this, it took a large amount of self discipline to get out of the cycle. Everything pushes you into the cycle, into this black box of uselessness.(Except for that last 6 months)
I've been doing audio for over a decade now, and I won't be stopping.
What I realized over the years is that I can educate people thousands at a time, where previously I was caught in "the cycle of complain" for 42 months and then act for 6 months with usually very little to show for it.
Is educating thousands, even tens of thousands of people enough? Probably not. I would need collaborators doing their own which would create its own reach while at the same time increasing my own. But I'm a way more useful "me" than I used to be, and as works in the public domain Big Tech can't silence me.
Here's one example, it's entry number 6(George Washington). Here's another - 162,000+ is a lot of reached people. And note that I didn't even upload that file. Someone else did. That's the power of open source and that's why it can't be silenced.
While I have most of the same complaints as the rest, I'm glad to say that I'm not a complainer. I'm a do'er.
A single comma in the title makes ALL the difference!! :0)
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