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About Those 'Neo-Nazis' in Ukraine...
Townhall.com ^ | March 4, 2024 | Oleg Atbashian

Posted on 03/04/2022 3:07:17 AM PST by Kaslin

Russian propaganda efforts have redoubled since Putin launched its aggression against Ukraine a week ago. Suddenly, a host of stories has appeared in conservative media that try to rally support for Vladimir Putin because he is allegedly fighting Nazis and the New Word Order in Ukraine. One of the worst examples is, perhaps, the Gateway Pundit, which has been duped into publishing stories by one Larry Johnson, whose only focus is the glorification of Russia and the smearing of Ukraine as a nation of Nazis.

We could respond by advising Russia and its advocates to worry about their own neo-Nazi infestation, but since this smear has now become widespread, it is prudent to address it.

The Nazi smear is a twisted but effective technique used by Russian propaganda and our left-wing media in equal abundance. Russia has been doing it since Stalin made it "a thing." This smear is effective because its victims try to distance themselves from one another and sometimes join in accusations, hoping others won't think of them as Nazis. It's also effective because it's extremely dirty. Trying to debunk it makes one dive deep into repulsive dirt.

Remember how Trump was smeared over Charlottesville — where did those Neo-Nazis even come from? Remember Nick Sandmann? Remember how Kyle Rittenhouse "became" a neo-Nazi for shooting at violent thugs in self-defense? Of course you do. But somehow no one remembers it when exactly the same technique is used on Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Politics/Elections; Russia
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To: caww

They carried out the coup in 2014 as well. I know a guy whi who goes and spent a lot of time with them over the years.


41 posted on 03/04/2022 5:57:14 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: thefactor
Why are people trying to erase facts?

Nobody is trying to erase facts, but they are calling out the lies of people who say it is appropriate to invade Ukraine, a nation of 44 million people, because there is a neo-nazi group with something like 1000 to 2000 members in Ukraine.

Using that logic our nation should be invaded too because we certainly have more than 2000 neo-nazis running around in the United States. We probably have five or ten times as many neo-nazis here.

Not only that but we have tens of thousands of violent gang members who kill people, shoot up neighborhoods, traffic drugs, engage in human trafficking, and do the same kind of awful things that the media accuses the Azov battalion of.

But only a liar or an idiot would claim that having some group of people with despicable ideas who may even engage in criminal behavior is a reason to invade and conquer a foreign country.

42 posted on 03/04/2022 6:03:39 AM PST by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing
I agree with everything you said, but I see a slight difference between the Ukrainian and US issues with neo-nazis. The Azov Battalion is an official part of the Ukrainian military. Are they all neo-nazis? No. But the ones who are neo-nazis are accepted and their ideas are tolerated and even encouraged.

In the US, we don't have a military unit that recruits neo-nazis. The US has issues on an individual level, not an institutional level, as the Ukraine seems to have.

Obviously I want Russia defeated, but I honestly would be fine with Azov being put on the front lines and brutally decimated.

43 posted on 03/04/2022 6:09:15 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt )
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To: erlayman

Russia still has no right to use violence and armed forces to invade a neighboring country regardless of what they think of Ukraine’s government.
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Exactly!

It is like invading the USA because of Antifa and Hunter Biden are here!


44 posted on 03/04/2022 6:11:58 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: vladimir998

If they’d display the Jolly Roger, they’d be pirates. Obvious!


45 posted on 03/04/2022 6:13:01 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Travis McGee

Is that the NATO flag on the left? Maybe they are hardcore far-right ultra-NATOists.


46 posted on 03/04/2022 6:14:54 AM PST by TimSkalaBim
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To: jmcenanly

Interesting how the Japanese Meatball and Rising Sun flags still fly. Japan was a terror(1930-1945) before the Nazis took over Germany.


47 posted on 03/04/2022 6:47:17 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (No dog in the Unraine war, but we still root for the underdog.)
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To: ScottinVA

“attacks from Poland”

That attack was on a German radio station by Nazis dressed in Polish uniforms. They even left behind a dead “Pole”, a German man in Polish uniform killed by an injection.


48 posted on 03/04/2022 6:49:48 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (No dog in the Unraine war, but we still root for the underdog.)
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To: Kaslin

Larry Johnson got it right. He must be destroyed. 😆


49 posted on 03/04/2022 6:58:49 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: caww

If you bothered to read this article, you would find that all you wrote is exactly the false Russian propaganda. The article debunks all you stupidities!


50 posted on 03/04/2022 7:06:05 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Kaslin

There are Neo-Nazis in Russia too. I would guess, a lot more of them!


51 posted on 03/04/2022 7:10:59 AM PST by AZJeep (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0AHQkryIIs)
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To: Cecily

Will they have their parade this year?


52 posted on 03/04/2022 7:27:01 AM PST by duckln ( )
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To: alloysteel

My Grandmother was one of those Ukrainian workers in Germany.


53 posted on 03/04/2022 8:08:26 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: AZJeep

Scratch any dictator, you’ll find a fascist.


54 posted on 03/04/2022 10:25:37 AM PST by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyranny is obedience to God.)
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To: Kaslin

No one believes most of this garbage except the InfoWars crowd.

And there are neo-Nazi’s everywhere...


55 posted on 03/04/2022 10:27:30 AM PST by Vaden (First they came for the Confederates... Next they came for Washington... Then they came...)
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To: Kaslin

It’s not a smear. Azov Nazi batallions have been wreaking havok in the East for a decade. The State Department pusahed out a neo-Nazi leader from a coalition of parties when the engineered their 2014 coup. Is Zelenskyy or the government neo-Nazi. Of course not, propaganda. But it is NOT a “smear.”


56 posted on 03/04/2022 10:41:52 AM PST by montag813
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To: Kaslin

Gateway Pundit should have been long-ago banned from FR. It has always been nothing but a source of half truths and conspiracy nonsense.


57 posted on 03/04/2022 1:08:03 PM PST by JME_FAN
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To: escapefromboston
I don’t support Russia’s invasion into Ukraine but I’m not going to pretend Azov Brigade aren’t neo-nazis.

Exactly. This is the line that struck me from the article:

"The fact is, Russian aggression was the only reason Azov was formed in the first place, so the Kremlin has only itself to blame for it."

So he can't decide between whether "Azov hardly has any neo-Nazis in it" or "Even if they are a bunch of neo-Nazis, it's Russia's fault!"

The warmongers get more shameless every day.

58 posted on 03/04/2022 1:09:07 PM PST by GunRunner
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To: Kaslin

I read a book recently about Berlin during the post WWII occupation, and read something I’d never heard of before.

IMMEDIATELY upon taking Berlin, Stalin had people find Hitler’s body and identify it. They found the name of Hitler’s dentist, found a dental assistant who worked for him, made her take them to the dentist office, found the dental records, identified the body, the took the dental assistant to the gulag, so she could not talk, where she remained for years. Her name was Käthe Heusermann.

Stalin knew immediately that Hitler was gone, but wanted to use the idea he might still be alive as the bogeyman to attack any opposition as Nazis seeking to restore Hitler to power. Which of course he did.


59 posted on 03/04/2022 1:15:31 PM PST by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Vaden
No one believes most of this garbage except the InfoWars crowd.

Well, Alex Jones did predict the war in Ukraine:

Alex Jones predicted “War in February” back in October

60 posted on 03/04/2022 1:52:05 PM PST by GunRunner
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