Posted on 03/02/2022 3:19:08 AM PST by Kaslin
Although national security decisions should not be driven by emotional events, we cannot help but be moved by what we are bearing witness to: the slaughter of innocent Ukrainian civilians under the pretext that Ukraine is a puppet state of NATO threatening Russia and exterminating ethnic Russians in Eastern Ukraine.
The answer to the question of whether to stand by and let things unfold or intervene is complicated and not something that nations throughout history have handled evenhandedly and consistently. I'm not even going to attempt to address that. But I think there is a middle ground that might provide NATO and Ukraine with some needed flexibility.
The U.S. and NATO are avoiding any "involvement" because Ukraine is not a NATO member, only a partner. However, if Putin could concoct out of whole cloth claims that Luhansk and Donetsk were independent republics and use that as a pretext for invading Ukraine, then why can't NATO expedite admission of Ukraine as a full member, triggering Article 5 — all for one and one for all?
If anyone has any complaints, what of it? NATO makes its own rules as to whom it admits and when. Concern that this would escalate the conflict and push Russia to slaughter more innocents ignores the objective reality that Putin has already escalated the conflict from one protecting Russia's border and ethnic Russians in Ukraine to a full-scale invasion of Ukraine. Moreover, because he didn't get a quick surrender, he further escalated the conflict by attacking civilian targets — including quite possibly having detonated a thermobaric bomb or FOAB (father of all bombs).
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How about the case for disbanding NATO now. Or at least US out of NATO.
I prefer the case for Europe handling a European security issue.
This would assure WWIII.
Nah.
Let’s not and say we did!
Excellent. It infers the US will only use it s NATO connection when vital US interests are involved.
Ukraine will pay The Big Guy a billion if he can pull that off.
Correct, whatever anyone thinks about Russia, Putin or Ukraine, making them part of NATO means WW III.
It’s sort of like hearing Congressmen talking about establishing a no-fly zone over Ukraine, meaning US and Russian Pilots shooting at each other, which inevitably would lead to each side attacking each other’s bases and full-scale all-out war with Russia.
US should leave NATO now, Ukraine is a New World Order hell hole of the top tier. Look at how much money the Biden’s and other US crooks have gotten from that corrupt hell hole.
Assure is too strong—somewhere between 20 and 80% chance.
It also depends on how you want to define WWIII
At best, probably worse than standard Russian Roulette in terms of getting a series of nuclear exchanges.
How much would Hunter get out of it?
If we give all nations in that area permission into NATO can we just all turn together on Russia? Wondering.
First you need to make a case for NATO itself.
Any decision based on emotions is bad... Look at where that has gotten America thanks to the left.
Sally is hysterical over the little dead girl in unicorn pajamas.
Step aside Sally.
Why we need nuclear war, By Sally
Ukraine should never be admitted to NATO...
They should not join the EU either, I would not wish that fate on anyone!
If Ukraine had been told unequivocally that they would not be allowed into NATO we would not be at the brink.
We couldn’t just allow the evil empire to fall, as gentlemen should, we had to rush in and rub their noses in the filth and humiliate them. We were ungracious winners, an ugly trait :-/
Sally Zelikovsky Is another idiot worried more about the old country than America. Ok, we go into Ukraine and start shouting Russian forces. And WWIII begins. It lasts about an hour.
This is another “Republican”.
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