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Being pro-police reform and pro-public safety are not mutually exclusive
FOX News.com ^ | February 25, 2022 | Jeri L. Williams

Posted on 02/25/2022 2:19:53 PM PST by Kaslin

Violent crime continues to plague the majority of urban cities across our country, and as the violence increases, so has the danger officers face every day.

Gun violence continues to devastate our communities, and countless victims are left without recourse as the failures of our criminal justice system are exposed. The Major Cities Chiefs Association (MCCA) has collected violent crime data since 2015 and in the most recent survey of the Association’s 70 U.S.-based member agencies, homicides in 2021 increased roughly 6% and aggravated assaults rose 3% compared to 2020.

While those increases may seem small, they are anything but. By comparison, the violent crime statistics show how serious the problem is. From 2019 to 2021, homicides were up approximately 49% and aggravated assaults increased 21%. That translates to more mothers losing babies, more children without parents, and more devastated communities. My fellow police chiefs and I ask, where is the sanctity of life?

The increase in violence directed at law enforcement has set new records. The FBI has documented a nearly 60% increase in officers killed in 2021, the highest total recorded in a decade. In my hometown of Phoenix, nine of my officers were hurt, including five shot in an ambush attack while trying to rescue a mom and baby during a domestic disturbance. In December, Phoenix Police Officer Tyler Moldovan was giving commands to a suspect who then pulled a gun and shot Officer Moldovan multiple times, leaving him critically injured.

I am fortunate and thankful that my officers were not killed. Many of my colleagues cannot say the same. Again, we ask, where is the sanctity of life?

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1 posted on 02/25/2022 2:19:53 PM PST by Kaslin
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"...Over the past two years, there has been a nationwide call for police reform. The MCCA has been a leader in this policy debate and a strong advocate for modernization. Every day, MCCA members work to implement professional law enforcement practices that are fair, equitable, transparent, and procedurally just. Being pro-reform and pro-public safety are not mutually exclusive; we can have high standards and constitutional policing as well as unwavering support for the profession. We can prioritize the sanctity of life for all..."

Sounds like blather to me.

2 posted on 02/25/2022 2:28:48 PM PST by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: Kaslin

Local communities can elect pro-2nd amendment, Constitutional sheriffs in their counties. This sheriff has the legal and armed muscle to confront gestapo cops controlled by leftist mayors. This sheriff also the investigative authority to rid your community of leftist bureaucrats and politicians.

If you don’t have a constitutional sheriff, get to work now. Many sheriff elections are in the spring when fewer than 10% of the population votes. It’s an easy win to protect your families and your community, if you get organized.


3 posted on 02/25/2022 2:34:20 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: rlmorel

cause they think you can pick up a turd by the clean end...


4 posted on 02/25/2022 2:34:40 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Kaslin

“Again, we ask, where is the sanctity of life?”

I recently had someone ask me if I thought that ‘Blue Lives Matter’ and I said in response that the lives of the police only matter to me to the extent that my life matters to them.

Sanctity of Life is a two way street and the Phoenix PD needs to work on this.


5 posted on 02/25/2022 2:35:14 PM PST by MercyFlush (DANGER: You are being conditioned to view your freedom as selfish)
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To: rlmorel

Yes they are so go away.


6 posted on 02/25/2022 2:36:27 PM PST by jmaroneps37
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To: Kaslin

This is a strawman argument.

Very few of the hard left have been calling for police reform, they have been calling for police disbandment, replaced with social workers. They want civil dis-rest because it feeds to their ultimate plan.


7 posted on 02/25/2022 2:37:06 PM PST by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: Kaslin

Cops are a necessary evil. For the most part they are beholding to the people that pay them directly and not to the citizens that really pay them.
Fixes;
1- No more unions.
2. All police chiefs or sheriffs are elected not appointed and all deputies work at their bosses discretion, with suitable due process for dismissal.
3. Better training and constant upgrade training. I would think a minimum of a law degree would be necessary. No bar requirement.
4. All firearms are to be surrendered at the end of shift and while on duty no firearms my be carried on their person.
Guns stay in the car, locked down, till needed.
5. Pay them for what they are worth.

You’d find policing would be much less “cowboy” and much more professional.


8 posted on 02/25/2022 2:37:39 PM PST by rellic
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“Cops are a necessary evil”

There is no such thing as ‘no cops’. Wherever 2 or more people gather, someone will assume that role. The only question is what kind of people do it. We need to do a better job of vetting them and pay them more. If we do that, maybe we can get people who do it for the right reasons and not because they want to be in a fight.


9 posted on 02/25/2022 2:51:02 PM PST by beef (Let’s go Baizuo!)
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To: rlmorel

Just what is meant by “police reforms?” All that the “police reform” Left offers is defund the police and strip police officers of their qualified immunity from civil suits against them personally. Unsurprisingly, residents and businesses in crime ridden areas have something else in mind, with more police at the top of their agenda.


10 posted on 02/25/2022 2:53:40 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: rellic

Much of your rules & regs is good, but the exceptions:

Law degree - nope. Okay if they come with it, but it is a guarantee of nothing. I assume you’ve heard more than a few jokes about dishonest attys and/or just plain rotten ones. There’s a reason for those jokes. Sending in cop-lawyers makes as much sense as sending in cop-social workers.

Turning in a service revolver at the end of the shift is okay since any officer has a 2nd amendment right to carry his own weapon after hours. Weapons being locked up while on duty is a non-starter. They’d be at the mercy of every thug with a cheap gun, the thug would have the drop on them from the getgo.

(Makes me think of that camp massacre some years back in Norway with Euro police having to get permission before they could even unlock their weapons as kids were being gunned down.)

Frequent re-training on guns and when to use/not use them is needed.

Otherwise what I would add to your list would be civil liability for anybody in the public sphere police, officeholder, paper pushers that eff people’s live over. If people know they’ll be held liable they tend to “do better” (as the saying goes).


11 posted on 02/25/2022 3:12:55 PM PST by LouieFisk
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To: Kaslin

The only path to “public safety” is to cut the police force.

They are, more often than not, an obstacle to justice.


12 posted on 02/25/2022 3:13:50 PM PST by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Rockingham; Chode; ClearCase_guy

IMO, when police chiefs or departments talk about “police reforms” they are doing it to satisfy a political need, and to signal they are onboard for it. Thus, they always include political verbiage to show they are down with the struggle.

In reality, any effective police leader knows that all that verbiage is BS meant only to placate people who want to be noticed.

Any real Chief of Police would know that all that should be done is to follow the law, follow the guidelines set down at all levels including department, locale, state, and federal, and change any that are clearly discriminatory or otherwise unconstitutional.

That’s it. All the rest is political posturing. I hate it.


13 posted on 02/25/2022 3:16:20 PM PST by rlmorel (The concept of a "cashless society" is simply a vector for the exercise of tyranny.)
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To: Kaslin

BLM was the worst thing which could have happened.

Instead of focusing on the real issues and making sound reforms that bring the police back into step with what the public actually wants, it took the issue down a side road which doesn’t matter.

Law enforcement does not have race issue, and if anything, you can probably find more examples where they are over cautious and over compensate than show any indication of racism.

That said, law enforcement has real issues in the US.

1. They have been turned into meter maids where they use them to make money. That’s not the police but on those that manage them. It’s tempting to fill the treasure chest with millions from BS tickets.

2. They have been politicised as is obviously the case with the DOJ/FBI, a cop getting 22.5 years for an arrest (white cop black bad guy), while the cop shooting a woman through the neck on 6 January (black cop white woman) is cleared of all wrong doing... Political correctness is alive in law enforcement. Look at how the FBI basically did a hit job on general Flyn. Sickening... At this point, the FBI is not far from a Stasi or Gestapo. They do their political masters bidding.

3. IMHO, the recruitment and training is wrong, being focused on maintaining control and escalation even though that is denied. Many of those in law enforcement wish they were in the DOD but were either too fat, out of shape or didn’t want to deal with deploying, low pay... But the high and tight hair cuts, the uniforms all turning dark blue (indistinguishable from black), the desire to have military hardware... One can deny it but the militarisation of law enforcement is obvious. Every hick department of 10 needs a SWAT team, military grade drones, mine and ambush resistant vehicles? Really?

4. There are too many and different types. Federally alone, you have what, 120 different armed law enforcement entities with duplication in senior ranks, squabbling over who gets what domain...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_law_enforcement_in_the_United_States


14 posted on 02/25/2022 3:30:41 PM PST by Red6
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To: rlmorel

100%


15 posted on 02/25/2022 3:32:34 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: rlmorel

Mostly, the public wants more and better police and police work. Politicians want the police to respond to their requests and to help them get re-elected, which sometimes means PR and posturing designed to make the police look good, or to at least mitigate public furor over the latest race-tinged incident involving the police. Good police chiefs know that the position requires that they accommodate all of those expectations.


16 posted on 02/25/2022 3:33:18 PM PST by Rockingham
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To: Kaslin

Ultimately, it’s better to be pro-policing (the principle of law and order) than it is to just be pro-police. Support the police when they support the rule of law.


17 posted on 02/25/2022 3:38:42 PM PST by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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To: rellic

Rule 0: All uniformed officers must wear and use body cameras at all times while on duty. All plainclothes officers must wear and use body cameras when serving warrants or not undercover, etc.. Failure to do so is a terminable offense.


18 posted on 02/25/2022 3:44:48 PM PST by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: rellic

6- *all* judgments for police misconduct are paid from the salaries and pension fund.

A force is only as good as the worst cop on it. And the reason there is so little respect for the ‘thin blue line’ is that ALL the cops know who the bad ones are, but seem to have more loyalty to the bad apples than the citizens.

7-all on duty officers will have functioning cameras with audio and ***ALL** video and audio will be available to any citizen who requests it, unredacted, no exceptions, exemptions, exclusions or redactions ***EXCEPT*** in the case of victimized minors.


19 posted on 02/25/2022 3:45:57 PM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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To: Spktyr

You beat me by 1:57 on the bodycams.


20 posted on 02/25/2022 3:49:13 PM PST by Republican in occupied CA (I will not give up on my native State! Here I was born, here I fight and die!!)
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