Posted on 02/22/2022 7:47:59 AM PST by Kaslin
My wife and I, and five of our children, had a discussion recently about giving up our US citizenship. Five of my six children were born in the US. On my father’s side, I’m a second-generation American. On my mother’s side, fourth or fifth. My oldest was 11, and the youngest was 3 when we moved to Israel. A year later our youngest son was born in Jerusalem and is an American because his parents are. Some are surprised to know that we choose to keep out US citizenship, or that we’re even allowed to. Others ask why we’d want to.
Being American comes with many rights and responsibilities. Our situation as dual American-Israeli citizens is not unique. There are a growing number of Americans in Israel, but I suspect that there are many more in other countries where the same conversations are taking place.
I am proudly American: born, raised, educated, and will always be American in my mind and culture. On many levels, the United States is the greatest country with the greatest potential for so many. It is the greatest democracy and is a world leader in so many things. No country is perfect, and the US is no exception. Keeping my citizenship is not a political issue, not a partisan issue. It is a great blessing to be born there, have the opportunities I have had and made for myself.
America is also the country in which Jews have had the greatest opportunities in diaspora, despite overt discrimination in education, residentially, socially, and more, that have been (and in many cases still are) part of the US society. American Jews have established perhaps the strongest diaspora community ever. Time will tell if it withstands the trend of pretty much all other diaspora experiences. Nevertheless, until now, the US has contributed to the Jews, as the Jews have contributed to the US.
Spending most of my life and career in the US, I’ve also worked hard and contributed my share of taxes. I hope that Social Security will still exist when I am eligible to retire and reap what I sowed.
I understand the significance of US policies, their role in the world, and the value and strength of the US economy and dollar. Living overseas has broadened and deepened that understanding.
I also consider it a privilege to vote in the US. Some ask why, if living overseas, I should be able to much less would care to vote. When I explain that we never stopped being Americans, are required to file (and pay) taxes, and that it’s a right and privilege, most get it.
But every privilege also has its responsibility. Since living in Israel I have been called for jury duty twice. I am exempt because I live overseas (though wouldn’t complain if they wanted to send me a plane ticket), but I still have to respond. The US also imposes complicated bureaucratic standards that all US citizens living abroad, earning over a certain amount, still have to file taxes in the US even if we pay more in tax in Israel than we would in the US on the same income. We still have to let the IRS know. Some people with young children also get a tax credit, but you have to file to do so.
Opening a bank account here as an American requires extra scrutiny. Israeli banks ask, covering their assets literally and figuratively if we are US citizens. The last thing they want to do is cross the US and its banking system. So, they don’t, and it costs us.
More frustrating is that, regardless of income, American citizens have to file an FBAR if their financial assets exceed $10,000. That includes saving accounts, pensions, brokerage accounts, etc. Even if people have no current income, they have to report total assets. Unless you have time and know what you’re doing, you have to pay someone to do this. For young people starting out in their careers (like my kids), it’s a burden and expense that’s hard to justify. It’s almost something you have to pay someone to do because with the bureaucracy, while one CAN file their own taxes and the like, making a mistake would create even worse problems.
It's disappointing to me that my kids don’t appreciate the blessings of being American the same as I do. Forget that they don’t know about many American cultural and historical pillars (shockingly not even Woodstock), they just don’t look that far west. It’s disappointing that they don’t care that much, and it’s disappointing that the US makes being a citizen overseas that much of a financial burden. Nobody’s given up their citizenship yet, but they have a hard time rationalizing paying what’s for them a lot of money just to maintain their “membership,” and risk something criminal for not doing so. My oldest daughter has two children and, even though they are eligible, they’re not registered as Americans.
But there’s always a catch. You can’t just burn or give up your passport and say, no thank you. Giving up US citizenship is a costly bureaucratic process. It costs about $2500 per person (a month’s salary for some, before taxes), as well as an “exit” tax which basically is a percent of your assets. That’s not only shocking, and out of reach for some on its own, but makes it cost-prohibitive to renounce one’s citizenship to the extent that it’s a financial burden to do so.
A few months ago, one of my daughters joked how once, an Israeli man offered to pay her to get married as a means (illegally) to get US citizenship. Of course, that’s not happening. Now, my kids are talking about dumping theirs, especially if the US allows Israelis the reciprocity of getting an automatic visa to go to the US as Americans do coming to Israel. Avoiding waiting for an appointment and being in line for hours just to apply for a visa will be a turning point in how they consider keeping their American citizenship, or not.
A college professor once said that a Jew can never have too many passports. If you ask my kids and others, one is enough: the one with the Biblical emblem of the State of Israel. Who cares if we can’t go to Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and other enlightened countries.
The Founders tried to put in safeguards against this.
Pick one country and stick with it.
Let the door hit in the head on your way out.
You might consider what would motivate someone to consider abandoning the U.S...
Sorry but this man and his family benefit immensely by being American citizens but do little or nothing to enhance or contribute to the American nation. Dual citizenship is an absurdity. Make your choice and live accordingly.
So what do they do to you if you don’t go through the process of citizenship renouncement? Sic Interpol on you?
We should NEVER allow dual citizenship, all it gets us are ungrateful traitors. Pick a country and commit to it.
I bet they won't give up US citizenship because they'll want the protection if things get uncomfortable in Israel, they'll want to escape back to the US or ask for US protection.
Um, Israel is better?
They have made the entire Jewish population there undergo medical experimentation.
You prefer that over the US?
Dual citizenship never made sense to me. How can one swear loyalty to two countries, even if those countries are allies?
Sounds like a lot of jabbering over nothing. Do whatever you want about your citizenship, nobody cares.
This current administration has made it clear by example and words, that you cannot count on that.
Ask all the Americans abandoned in Afghanistan, if any of them are still left alive.
“Well, By”
I am against dual citizenships, PARTICULARLY, when the beneficiary is allowed to vote in US elections. PICK ONE OR THE OTHER. As far as the rest of the author’s self-flagellating opus, so what? You deserted the US a long time ago, why complain about the cost now?
Actually, if they were stupid enough to travel and even vacation there, or choose to live there, I really don’t care. Good riddance to them, citizens or not. And I’ll bet 99% were dual citizens who, in my mind, made their choice by going and living or even vacationing there.
I agree.
Unless you come across our borders ILLEGALLY. Then it's perfectly fine.
By the way, was there any solely US citizens left behind? I don’t think so. And, no, I don’t count anchor baby kids who should simply have the citizenship of their parents who, in this case, chose poorly.
“It’s disappointing to me that my kids don’t appreciate the blessings of being American the same as I do.”
That’s on YOU, ‘Dad.’
Who is this guy? Yeesh!
It also makes no sense to bestow citizenship based on country of birth instead of the citizenship of the parents. The US is on of the few countries that has that policy.
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