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Elon Musk issues dire warning about America's $30+ trillion national debt..."Something has got to give," Musk tweeted
https://justthenews.com ^ | February 11, 2022 - 3:33pm | By Nicholas Ballasy

Posted on 02/11/2022 1:09:27 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

I would’ve thought it would collapse a long time ago.


21 posted on 02/11/2022 2:34:01 PM PST by libertylover (Our BIGGEST problem, by far, is that most of the media is hate & agenda driven, not truth driven.)
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To: Red Badger
Use your favorite search engine and read about "perpetual debt."

The ever-increasing debt of the US Fed and the European Central Bank are about "selling" indebtedness as if "public," and a small group benefits while the most will not.

This is monetary version of fascism/corporatism/socialism in which the few who rule the many live well above the average man. It should be toppled.

Irrespective of one's view, it will collapse as it has throughout the world many times over.

For a visual: https://www.visualcapitalist.com/timeline-150-years-of-u-s-national-debt/

22 posted on 02/11/2022 2:36:59 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: PGR88

Most SS payouts are covered by SS collections, cash basis.
SS is just recently falling behind in payout vs collections.
So the Ponzi scheme is still more or less viable, on a cash basis. Cash basis is the only reasonable way to view these things, btw, not as long term liabilities. Governments arent normal economic players.

The trouble is that the cash balance will continue to deteriorate over time.


23 posted on 02/11/2022 2:37:59 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Red Badger
Also another reference with a timeline....

https://www.thebalance.com/national-debt-by-year-compared-to-gdp-and-major-events-3306287

Trump had suggested "growing" the nation's economy to begin to shrink the debt. That was savaged in the Lefty press who did not bother to report the debt passing $30 trillion in Biden's first year.

24 posted on 02/11/2022 2:41:17 PM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time
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To: LaMudBug

Exactly so. On an unrelated matter, you are doing pretty well for 89 I have to say. I hope, but doubt, I will be that lucid and capable a writer at that age. My mom was pretty good at 84, but at 86 she is well out of it.


25 posted on 02/11/2022 2:42:29 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Red Badger

Crashing the US dollar and bankrupting the country is part of the plan for the communist take over.


26 posted on 02/11/2022 2:47:41 PM PST by Revel
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To: dljordan
How much have the Fed bankers stolen from us over the years? How about an audit?

Bingo and with the help of corrupt leadership....Decades of terrible leadership and most ALL of it directed and produced by lawyers turned career politicians.

27 posted on 02/11/2022 2:49:53 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: proust

He doesn’t use that card nearly enough. Man would I get mileage out of that if I was from South Africa.


28 posted on 02/11/2022 3:00:23 PM PST by Sarcazmo
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To: PGR88

Millions of persons have paid into Soc Sec & died before they collected a thin.

NO refunds of those payments paid in.

Also- IF you are on Soc Sec—you are getting a check this month for LAST month...

If you die on the 1st—or the last day of this month-—there is NO payment next month.


29 posted on 02/11/2022 3:01:13 PM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: Revel

“Crashing the US dollar and bankrupting the country is part of the plan for the communist take over.”

That was the old plan.

The new plan is to crash the entire world economy so that a handful of elites can live in luxury while the “deplorables” around the planet are their slaves.


30 posted on 02/11/2022 3:06:53 PM PST by cgbg (A kleptocracy--if they can keep it. Think of it as the Cantillon Effect in action.)
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To: PGR88
if you think SS is unsustainable, what about the federales and the military?...

feds retire very early...often they 'll double or even triple dip...

and how many guys do you read about in the obits that retired after 20 yrs at the age of 38 and rec'd military pensions until their death 50 or more yrs later?....how in any world can that be sustained....50 yrs of military pension?.....

things will change because they have to....and even with the cabal stealing money left and right, we still should never be engaging in insane pension schemes..

31 posted on 02/11/2022 3:35:14 PM PST by cherry (;)
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To: LaMudBug; PGR88
A much simpler way of saying all that - It's a giant ponzi scheme.

P.S. I'm super stoked at all the folks who voted that I would pay their SS benefits without me having a say in the matter. SS needs to go. Yesterday.

32 posted on 02/11/2022 3:42:57 PM PST by Repeat Offender (While the wicked stand confounded, call me with Thy saints surrounded.)
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To: Revel

I bet there will be a US bankruptcy before the oceans flood Obama’s estate.


33 posted on 02/11/2022 4:23:11 PM PST by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: ActresponsiblyinVA

I wonder which Obama estate is closer to sea level...the one in Taxachusetts or the new one he’s building in Hawaii?


34 posted on 02/11/2022 4:29:35 PM PST by nascarnation (Let's Go Brandon!)
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To: Letsgobrandon

Any mainstream economist will tell you that it “doesn’t work”. But I think one of the lessons we ought to be learning is that the “experts” have no idea what they’re talking about.

Lincoln financed the Civil War through Greenbacks which, I believe, were also just “printed money” that was not borrowed, did not accrue interest and didn’t have to be paid back. It worked for him.

I have nothing good to say about Biden. But, if someone were to demonstrate to the world that central banking (Federal Reserve) is the real scam, then that would really change the world.


36 posted on 02/11/2022 5:49:52 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("If you see something, say something"? I see people dying from vaccines.)
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To: Red Badger

times 20 at least with all the liabilities


37 posted on 02/11/2022 5:57:27 PM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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To: Jim Robinson

What they are doing is inflating the money so that hey can pay off the National Debt, T-Bills, etc, with worthless money. China has already warned them about that. What they are doing is a disgrace. My retirement savings is dwindling in value more an more each day..........................


38 posted on 02/14/2022 5:10:15 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: PGR88

It isn’t.

In order to keep up the façade of solvency, like any Ponzi Scheme, they have to have a continuous influx of new YOUNG workers to pay into the system.

That’s the reason for the OPEN BORDERS, unlimited immigration from anywhere, letting in every person possible so that they can get work and start paying into the system...................


39 posted on 02/14/2022 5:15:44 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Ken H

The Kiss of Death for the Bengals................


40 posted on 02/14/2022 5:17:47 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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