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North Carolina elections board says it has power to bar Cawthorn from running over Jan. 6
The Hill ^ | 02/08/22 09:53 PM EST | BY LEXI LONAS

Posted on 02/08/2022 7:08:36 PM PST by RandFan

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We must ditch Mitch.


21 posted on 02/08/2022 7:46:52 PM PST by TakebackGOP
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To: RandFan
Our communist masters know no limits to the weight of the chains they have been hanging around our necks...

Going to continue to get exponentially worse, since the sheeple will whine and mumble and then put out it out of their collective minds...

More & More, It Appears That Nothing Will Ever Be Done About It!

22 posted on 02/08/2022 7:55:04 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: RandFan

The NC State Board of Elections: two Democrats and two Republicans. So, what happens if there is a tie? Is a tie considered a win?


23 posted on 02/08/2022 8:00:28 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: AnthonySoprano

That’s what the January 6th committee thing is all about. They want to use it to prevent Trump from running again.


24 posted on 02/08/2022 8:02:57 PM PST by ConjunctionJunction (Vim vi repellere licet)
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To: RandFan

Without conviction under US title 18 section 2383, I would find it difficult to reason out how any election board or official would be able to bar a person under the 14th amendment.


25 posted on 02/08/2022 8:15:50 PM PST by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If it works on him it will work on Trump. (Which has been Mark Elias’s plan all along). Disqualify any Repub that is a danger to their entire control of the country. As Sundance says, There are trillions of dollars at stake.


27 posted on 02/08/2022 8:55:58 PM PST by Greenidgypsy (A smile is free…..give more of them.)
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To: RandFan

Did Cawthorn enter or even approach the Capitol?


28 posted on 02/08/2022 10:04:05 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: Letsgobrandon

So says the newbie.


29 posted on 02/08/2022 10:05:33 PM PST by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team sco uts photo-op locations.)
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To: dfwgator

DAT FLAG BE RASIS, bof hans be WHITE!


30 posted on 02/08/2022 10:15:15 PM PST by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: RandFan
14th §3 does bar from a wide range of federal, state and local offices those guilty of its specifications. 14th §5 gives Congress the authority to enforce that through appropriate legislation. However, unlike the general rule that simple legislation cannot overturn a constitutional provision 14th §3 specifically allows 2/3 vote of both Houses to remove its disability. So to evaluate its potential for barring office holders you need to know not only the Constitutional text, but the text of whatever legislation has passed regarding it.

After the Civil War President Johnson issued a general pardon, which would have kept those affected out of prison, but not allowed them in office RE 14th §3. But under President Grant, in 1872 Congress passed the Amnesty Act of 1872, with the required supra-majorities, on 5/22/1872. I've not yet found the language of that act, although I've seen it referred to as not only removing the prior Civil War related disabilities but also removing disabilities for any future acts, ie. even through 1/6/2020. And President Grant issued an executive order 10 days later implementing that legislation, which can be found here. Presuming he didn't misrepresent the now 150 year old Amnesty Act, President Grant proclaimed:

Whereas the act of Congress approved May 22, 1872, removes all political disabilities imposed by the third section of the fourteenth article of amendments to the Constitution of the United States from all persons whomsoever except Senators and Representatives of the Thirty-sixth and Thirty-seventh Congresses and officers in the judicial, military, and naval service of the United States, heads of Departments, and foreign ministers of the United States;
Grant went on to order the end to all proceeding under "the act of Congress approved May 31, 1870" which I presume from context was the prior legislation enabling 14th §3. If so, a real lawyer, which I'm not, should be able to verify my presumption easily enough. And if there's no subsequent applicable legislation than 14th §3 disqualification is turned off, excepting those listed and long dead exceptions, until such time as future legislation turns it back on again. (Which I presume is possible under 14th §5.)

So the government of NC has been defeated by the GOP forces of Ulysses Grant, again. But when this victory was won 150 years ago, NC was glad for the result.

Thus the questions of whether 1/6 actually qualifies as insurrection, whether Cawthorn is guilty of it, and whether this state agency can determine either with mere allegations and zero due process are moot as their proposed penalty is barred.

31 posted on 02/08/2022 10:24:56 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris press events are called dodo ops )
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Section 3
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

THIS is the goal and endgame for the JAN 6 event that was gameplanned, and instigated by the Satanic forces of the Deep State. They will deem all ineligible who supported political causes they don’t agree with. The Congress is setting themselves up as Judges, Jury and executioner. They are inventing a brand new form of impeachment. Somebody is very smart and lawyerly. Who is the legal mind behind this? can I say Satan?


32 posted on 02/08/2022 10:39:35 PM PST by Glad2bnuts ((“If there are no absolutes by which to judge society, then society is absolute.” Francis Schaeffer,)
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To: Glad2bnuts
If my reasoning is correct, the only currently operative sentence of Section 3 is that last one.

Well and Section 5:
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Their endgame is a dud. Again.

33 posted on 02/08/2022 11:08:53 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Biden/Harris press events are called dodo ops )
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To: Letsgobrandon

Huh?


34 posted on 02/09/2022 12:39:45 AM PST by vivenne (")
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To: Glad2bnuts

So people like Shiff and Pelosi can also be barred.


35 posted on 02/09/2022 2:06:29 AM PST by Jumper
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To: Letsgobrandon
Letsgobrandon, you stated that Crawthorn is a RHINO and : ” Please elect a real conservative. Cawthorne is a joke.”

You need to put-your-money-where-your-mouth-is and tell us just why you think he is a RHINO. My district elected Mr. Crawthorn and we know him. He is ray of sunshine in the midst of our state where the big liberal inner city thugs of Raleigh run the state. Up here in the mountains of western North Carolina we are Patriots and Crawthorn is a hero. He’s young, and still learning, not an elite political hack with decades of experience and power in ruining the country, so perhaps he comes across to you as someone who does not know “the ropes” so to speak. But he is trying and putting his whole heart and soul into representing the conservatives of our district.

36 posted on 02/09/2022 3:01:16 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: RandFan

Laughable desperation move that will only backfire. Firstly there was no “insurrection”. Secondly, even if there were, they couldn’t show that he in any way participated...the guy is confined to a wheelchair after all.

This just makes them look ridiculous not to mention desperate and scared.


37 posted on 02/09/2022 3:27:37 AM PST by FLT-bird
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To: RandFan

Isn’t this the eye patch wearing snake that’s come out at as a true Rhino? If yes I say bar him from office and run a true patriot.


38 posted on 02/09/2022 3:33:03 AM PST by TermLimits4All (Biden will never be my President. There’s only 1 option left and it won’t be pretty.)
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To: hanamizu

Better yet- how many NC reps, federal and local, claimed President Trump was guilty of “Russian collusion”? And what was done to them?


39 posted on 02/09/2022 4:53:18 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5 million pay no income tax and vote for DemoKrats...)
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