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Pence says 'Trump is wrong' to say then-vice president had the right to overturn 2020 election
CNN ^ | February 4, 2022 | Steve Contorno and Eric Bradner

Posted on 02/04/2022 2:49:14 PM PST by McGruff

Former Vice President Mike Pence called out his former boss by name on Friday, saying that "President (Donald) Trump is wrong" in claiming that Pence had the right to overturn the 2020 election on January 6, 2021.

Speaking at the Federalist Society Florida Chapters conference near Orlando, Pence delivered his strongest response yet to Trump's ongoing efforts to relitigate the 2020 presidential election, calling it "un-American" to suggest one person could have decided the outcome.

Pence warned against conservatives who continue to insist the vice president can alter an election, and said it could be a problematic position for Republicans in the next presidential contest.

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1 posted on 02/04/2022 2:49:14 PM PST by McGruff
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To: McGruff

He’s been saying it all along. He isn’t going to change his tune now.


2 posted on 02/04/2022 2:51:19 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: McGruff

I’m down with his position

Still angry we were cheated though.


3 posted on 02/04/2022 2:51:26 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: McGruff

CNN .....
Judas Pence .....

Need I read more?


4 posted on 02/04/2022 2:54:15 PM PST by Hostage (Article V)
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To: McGruff

Pennsylvania just declared unsolicited mail in ballots unconstitutional, but you go Mike!


5 posted on 02/04/2022 2:54:50 PM PST by JonPreston (Q: Never have so many, been so wrong, so often)
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To: McGruff

Not “overturn” (only the State legislatures could do that).
He could have kicked the elector slates back to the States.


6 posted on 02/04/2022 2:56:11 PM PST by rfp1234 (Comitia asinorum et rhinocerum delenda sunt.)
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To: McGruff

When did Trump say Pence could have overturned ? He only said Pence should have sent it back to the state legislatures.


7 posted on 02/04/2022 2:57:01 PM PST by libh8er
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To: McGruff

Every dog has his day. Your day has come and gone, MIKE PENCE. Get back on the porch and let the BIG DOGS run.


8 posted on 02/04/2022 2:57:44 PM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose GOD is the LORD. ~ Psalm 33:12)
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To: McGruff

I never asked to overturn the election. What I wanted was to INVESTIGATE the election, to have hearings, to bring in witnesses, etc to find out exactly what happened on election night and to hold off certifying the election til that was done


9 posted on 02/04/2022 2:57:45 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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it seems to me that pence could have resigned on the spot instead of performing the ceremony, claiming conscience.

that he did not means at a minimum that he missed his place in history.

what do the news media expect, trump to be denied a chance to be re-elected?


10 posted on 02/04/2022 2:57:52 PM PST by SteveH (.)
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To: rfp1234

There were states with several delegations. These were contested elections in those states. All he had to do was ask the state legislators to resolve these conflicts.


11 posted on 02/04/2022 2:58:56 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Contempt is the essential tool of the tyrant.)
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To: McGruff

Golly gee whillickers Pence - Trump didn’t say you could overturn the election and you know what the legal strategy was AND IS.

You could have allowed the objections to stand and call for an investigation. That was all that was asked and you refused to consider it.

You’re a traitor to the constitution and this Republic.


12 posted on 02/04/2022 2:59:19 PM PST by Skywise
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To: McGruff
"Cowards die a thousand deaths, but the brave only die once.” ― Ernest Hemingway
13 posted on 02/04/2022 2:59:27 PM PST by farming pharmer (fork you :(){ :|:& };:)
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To: McGruff

Mr. Pence, please shut up and go away!


14 posted on 02/04/2022 3:00:15 PM PST by wintertime ( Behind every government school teacher stand armed police.( Real bullets in those guns on the hip!))
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To: Louis Foxwell

He is being deliberately disingenuous. Makes him all the more a traitor to the people.


15 posted on 02/04/2022 3:00:25 PM PST by Louis Foxwell (Contempt is the essential tool of the tyrant.)
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To: McGruff

The Treachery of VP Mike Pence Explained


Emerald Robinson

Finally, President Donald Trump chose to lob a verbal grenade in the general direction of his old VP Mike Pence last Sunday night — regarding Pence’s ability to formally contest the results of the stolen 2020 election.

This was, for many Trump supporters, long overdue.

Here is Trump’s statement on the matter:

 

The reason that Mike Pence did not exercise the power to lawfully contest the election is because Mike Pence was never a Trump loyalist.

He’s a GOP establishment loyalist.

There were plenty of problems inside the Trump Administration, and Vice President Mike Pence was at the center of many of those problems.

In fact, it’s always been obvious that Pence and his staff were deeply involved in trying to remove President Trump from office.

Whenever the subject of Mike Pence comes up in casual conversation, I always ask the same question:

If you’re drawing a blank with these names then I’m sorry to inform you that you were not paying close enough attention to politics during the Trump Years.

Also, you were not paying attention to my Twitter feed — because I was reporting on these problems all the time during the Trump Administration.

So, without further ado, let’s review all the evidence against Mike Pence. Trust me: there’s a lot of evidence.

1) Who Fired General Michael Flynn?

Let’s begin with Mike Pence’s least favorite question:

“Why did you insist that President Trump fire his National Security Advisor Michael Flynn in the opening days of the administration?”

The official story is that Gen. Flynn had lied to Mike Pence about Flynn’s contacts with Russian diplomats.

Nobody has bothered to ask Pence exactly how he was informed about Flynn’s private conversations.

Think about it: somebody went to Pence with transcripts of Flynn’s calls, and told Pence that Flynn was a national security risk.

It almost certainly must have been disgraced FBI agent Peter Strozk.

It’s likely that Strzok was the one who pushed for VP Pence to fire Flynn because we know that Peter Strozk's assistant was Katherine Seaman — the wife of Mike Pence’s chief of staff Josh Pitcock.

We also have the text exchanges between Strozk and Page discussing infiltrating the Trump White House in great detail.

(This was the subject of an extraordinary letter from Senator Grassley and Senator Johnson to AG Bill Barr.)

What did Pence know about the FBI’s attempts to spy on the Trump White House?

Is it even possible that Mike Pence was totally unaware that his chief of staff’s spouse worked directly for the chief of the counter-espionage unit of the FBI?

We know that President Obama warned President Trump not to hire Flynn in 2016.

We also know that Flynn himself believes that Obama advised Trump against hiring him because Flynn knew about the Obama administration’s role in spying on Trump’s presidential campaign.

Removing Flynn as Trump’s National Security Advisor was a top priority for the Deep State.

In other words, Mike Pence was the first person to set the Russia Hoax into motion.

2) The Ukraine Impeachment

During the failed Ukraine impeachment of President Trump, plenty of State Department and NSC swamp creatures crawled out of the shadows to hurl lame accusations about Trump’s phone call with Ukraine President Zelensky.

Did you know that one of main accusers was a national security official on Vice President Mike Pence’s staff?

A State Department official named Jennifer Williams was placed on Pence's staff in April of 2019 — which was just in time to get involved in the Ukraine call and the subsequent impeachment.

(What a coincidence that she arrived mere weeks before the call!)

Just imagine being a few months into your new job in the White House only to volunteer to testify against the President in an impeachment trial over phone calls you didn’t like.

If you find that scenario absurd, you’re not alone.

During her testimony before Congress, Jennifer Williams identified her working colleagues on Ukraine issues as Alex Vindman, Fiona Hill, and George Kent.

She also testified that Trump’s call was”unusual and inappropriate” without explaining her legal reasoning.

(That’s not so strange because Williams had defied an order from the White House by agreeing to appear for her deposition at all.)

She was then sent off to CENTCOMM right after the Ukraine impeachment was over.

Williams’ attempted takedown of President Trump moved her immediate supervisor Lt. Gen Keith Kellogg to issue his own statement about Williams:

Ms. Williams was also on the call, and as she testified, she never reported any personal or professional concerns to me, her direct supervisor, regarding the call. In fact, she never reported any personal or professional concerns to any other member of the Vice President’s staff, including our Chief of Staff and the Vice President.

Again, obvious questions should be asked.

This is the second time that Mike Pence and his office were involved in plots against President Trump manufactured by national security officials.

Do you see a pattern forming yet?

3) Olivia Troye And The COVID Vaccines

The worst mistake that President Trump made during his administration was probably turning over the COVID Task Force to VP Mike Pence — because Pence turned it over to his chief of staff Marc Short and Marc Short turned it over to a little known national security official with no medical expertise.

If you want to know the name of the person most responsible for unleashing the Dr. Fauci vaccine nightmare on America then remember the name of Mike Pence’s “COVID advisor”:

Olivia Troye.

Why was the decision made to treat the COVID virus (developed and funded by the U.S. Government under the thin disguise of the EcoHealth Alliance) exclusively with experimental vaccines (developed with funding from DARPA) instead of therapeutics?

Perhaps because Pence picked a national security official to advise him on COVID who regularly appears on TV now with a framed picture of Dr. Fauci hanging prominently behind her in her house.

Olivia Troye was just as motivated to destroy the Trump Administration as Jennifer Williams, but she didn’t have the same level of interest in protecting VP Mike Pence from the fallout.

(Pence’s people probably figured this out the day that Troye appeared in a TV ad announcing that she would vote for Biden.)

Once again, Gen. Keith Kellogg was sent out to explain that Olivia Troye was another bad apple that happened to be planted in Pence’s office.

(In fact, Kellogg announced that he had personally escorted Troye out of the White House when she was fired.)

Troye then started a personal grift operation called the Republican Accountability Project — in which she came out of the closet as a full time political operative for the Democrat Party.

So that’s three members of VP Mike Pence’s office who engaged in anti-Trump activities during normal business hours. That’s a lot of treachery.

Let’s not forget the ringleader of so much of this malice too:

Pence’s chief of staff Marc Short.

4) Pence’s Chief of Staff Gets Locked Out of White House by Trump

If you still harbor doubts about Pence’s treachery, let’s turn to Pence’s chief of staff Marc Short for confirmation of these activities.

On January 6th, Short found himself locked out of the White House with his car still in the parking lot.

When a reporter asked Short why this had happened, Short’s reply was surprisingly honest:

“He’s blaming me for advice to VP.”

The he in this case, of course, is Trump.

My own sources in the White House told me that Pence’s chief of staff Marc Short was literally the first person to call for Trump to accept the results of the stolen election and concede to Biden.

Like I said at the beginning: there’s a lot of evidence of Pence’s treachery.

Long before GOP voters were suddenly surprised by Pence’s “lack of courage” on January 6th, I warned my followers on social media that any trust in Pence was misplaced.

My sources in the White House told me that Pence simply disappeared after the 2020 election. (He went skiing in Vail rather than bother with contesting the 2020 election.) I wrote on Twitter at the time:

We might need to stick VP Mike Pence’s face on the back of milk cartons because he’s disappeared.

- Nov 08, 2020

Most Republican voters have never met the big GOP donors — and have no idea what they do with their money.

The big donors wanted a Mike Pence/Nikki Haley ticket in 2024. They don't really care what GOP voters want, and they never have.

These are the people who pushed Jeb in 2016.

And Paul Ryan before that.

And Dan Quayle before that.

Pence is a creature of the GOP donors, not an America First patriot. That much is obvious now.

Pence was added to the Trump ticket to restrain Trump's populism — and that’s what he tried to do for four years.

When pro-Trump aides were sidelined in the Trump White House, I heard the same thing from all of them:

It’s time for Republican voters to admit that they had no idea who Mike Pence was.

Don’t be too upset with yourself. He fooled plenty of people.

The man you thought he was — that guy doesn’t really exist.

It’s time you paid much closer attention to your favorite politicians though — if you want your country to survive.

16 posted on 02/04/2022 3:01:02 PM PST by Bratch
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To: McGruff

They got to Pence. They own him now. He will do as told from here.


17 posted on 02/04/2022 3:01:13 PM PST by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees)
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To: McGruff

Snide Pence is 100% wrong and acting like one of the reprobates with a computer. Listen to the first hour of the Mark Levin Show on 2/1/22. He goes over all of this for the first hour.

https://www.marklevinshow.com/audio-rewind

Trump is right!


18 posted on 02/04/2022 3:01:52 PM PST by conservative98
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To: rfp1234
He could have kicked the elector slates back to the States.

Maybe it the state legislatures had asked him to do that he might have been able to, though even that is very questionable. But none of the state legislatures did.

19 posted on 02/04/2022 3:02:09 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: libh8er

He never said it, never asked for it and neither did his lawyers. Pence is a Lying Dog-Faced Pony Soldier. But, we already knew that.......


20 posted on 02/04/2022 3:02:13 PM PST by vivenne (")
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