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Wisconsin Judge Amazingly Rules 7 Health Care Workers Cannot Switch Jobs
Mish Talk ^ | 1-22-22 | Mish

Posted on 01/22/2022 6:04:23 PM PST by Brookhaven

Telling people they cannot quit for a better opportunity is blatantly unconstitutional. But that just happened in Wisconsin.

The Appleton, Wisconsin Post-Crescent reports Fox Valley Health Care Workers Now Playing Out in Court.

The seven workers quit ThedaCare, applied for positions at Ascension, and received job offers.

The seven did not have contracts or obligations at ThedaCare nor did Ascension recruit those workers.

Nonetheless, ThedaCare filed a lawsuit seeking to block the move.

Outagamie County Circuit Court Judge Mark McGinnis granted ThedaCare's request and until at least Monday.

In the complaint, lawyers for ThedaCare wrote that Ascension had "shockingly" chosen to "poach" the employees during a stressful time for health care. More COVID-19 patients are hospitalized in the Fox Valley now than at any other time during the pandemic, according to Wisconsin Hospital Association data, and ThedaCare has canceled non-emergency surgeries to make space.

ThedaCare-Neenah is a Level II Trauma Center, part of which means they have specialists like interventional radiologists available regularly to treat patients. Ascension St. Elizabeth Hospital, a Level III Trauma Center, can provide initial support to trauma patients and is able to transfer them to ThedaCare-Neenah for more care, according to definitions from the Wisconsin Department of Health Services.

Ascension says it did not recruit the workers and that ThedaCare had an opportunity to make counter-offers but didn't.

Timothy Breister, one of applicants in the dispute said the pay, the benefits, and the life-style options offered by Ascension were better.

Its "not just in pay but also a better work/life balance," said Breister.

After approaching ThedaCare with the chance to match the offers they'd been given, Breister wrote that they were told "the long term expense to ThedaCare was not worth the short term cost," and no counter-offer would be made.

You Can't Quit


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: labor; localnews; socializedmedicine; wisconsin
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To: DocRock

Yes, that’s a better reference.


21 posted on 01/22/2022 6:13:53 PM PST by farmguy
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To: DocRock
Directive 10-289

Point One: All workers, wage earners and employees of any kind whatsoever shall henceforth be attached to their jobs and shall not leave nor be dismissed nor change employment, under penalty of a term in jail.
22 posted on 01/22/2022 6:16:26 PM PST by Colinsky
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To: Reily

Diocletian is what immediately came to mind. Good call!


23 posted on 01/22/2022 6:16:40 PM PST by ClearCase_guy ("If you see something, say something?" I see people dying from vaccines.)
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To: TygertLane

“Article was for nothing.”

And yet, in violation of FR rules, you read it!


24 posted on 01/22/2022 6:17:13 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Celtic Conservative

Show up but, tell every patient, “I am forced to be here, I do not care if you live or die.”


25 posted on 01/22/2022 6:17:49 PM PST by Fai Mao (I don't think we have enough telephone poles.)
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To: dragonblustar

ThedaCare requested Thursday that an Outagamie County judge temporarily block seven of its employees who had applied for and accepted jobs at Ascension from beginning work there on Monday until the health system could find replacements for them.


26 posted on 01/22/2022 6:20:55 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Brookhaven

I’ve been following this on another site. Surprised it wasn’t covered here.

Basically, one nurse at ThedaCare-Neenah applied for a job at Ascension and got it. She went back to ThedaCare-Neenah, put in her notice, and told her coworkers how much more money she would be making.

A bunch of her coworkers applied for jobs at Ascension and got hired also.

ThedaCare-Neenah has sought an injunction preventing the nurses from taking the new jobs until their old jobs are filled.

Here’s the kicker: there’s nothing in the injunction that says they have to stay and work their old jobs. Only that they can’t take a new job till they are backfilled by ThedaCare-Neenah.


27 posted on 01/22/2022 6:21:28 PM PST by Brookhaven (Ted Cruz said Jan. 6 was terrorism)
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To: Fai Mao

Or they could show up and refuse to wear a mask.


28 posted on 01/22/2022 6:21:30 PM PST by cockroach_magoo
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To: nickcarraway
"It’s illegal to do something against government orders."

You don't need to obey a unlaw order in the military.. And I'll wager it's the same in civilian life as well.

29 posted on 01/22/2022 6:21:34 PM PST by unread (Everything you ever thought was right, fair and just is completely wrong..... I think..(?))
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To: Brookhaven

I would sue the living sh1te out of the judge while appealling the ruling.

Wisconsin is a right to work state. And given no clauses in their contract regarding this, even more so.

Even if those clauses were in their contract they get tossed out in court all the time because people have a right to earn a living.


30 posted on 01/22/2022 6:22:00 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: DoughtyOne

“That’s not going to stand.”

What is not going to stand? Click-bait will be forever!


31 posted on 01/22/2022 6:22:03 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: vikingd00d

He labeled it Order 66.


32 posted on 01/22/2022 6:22:42 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Brookhaven

Communists in every facet of the Nation are on a roll...

However, the sheeple just bear their chains with barely a murmur...


33 posted on 01/22/2022 6:22:51 PM PST by SuperLuminal (Where is another Sam Adams now that we desperately need him?)
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To: Celtic Conservative

The injunction doesn’t say the have to show up for work at their old job. Only that they can’t start their new job.

It sounds more like ThedaCare-Neenah is trying to punish their employees for leaving.


34 posted on 01/22/2022 6:23:04 PM PST by Brookhaven (Ted Cruz said Jan. 6 was terrorism)
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To: Regulator

Involuntary Servitude

Courts like the formal names for things


35 posted on 01/22/2022 6:23:22 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

“I would sue the living sh1te out of the judge while appealling the ruling.”

By the time you file, the issue will have been resolved.


36 posted on 01/22/2022 6:25:36 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: SuperLuminal

I wonder what the founding fathers would say about this nation in this day and age.


37 posted on 01/22/2022 6:25:47 PM PST by No name given
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To: Brookhaven

ThedaCare requested Thursday that an Outagamie County judge temporarily block seven of its employees who had applied for and accepted jobs at Ascension from beginning work there on Monday until the health system could find replacements for them.


38 posted on 01/22/2022 6:27:03 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Brookhaven

ThedaCare requested Thursday that an Outagamie County judge temporarily block seven of its employees who had applied for and accepted jobs at Ascension from beginning work there on Monday until the health system could find replacements for them.


39 posted on 01/22/2022 6:27:03 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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To: Celtic Conservative

“Ok, then when I don’t show up for work at my old job fire me. I dare you to find me in contempt of court for it.”

When will FReepers learn to not get triggered by click-bait sites ...


40 posted on 01/22/2022 6:29:28 PM PST by TexasGator (UF)
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