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Term limits, a balanced budget: Ohio Republicans want to amend the U.S. Constitution
Columbus Dispatch ^ | 1/19/2022 | Anna Staver

Posted on 01/20/2022 5:22:38 AM PST by EBH

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To: EBH

About time!!!


21 posted on 01/20/2022 7:33:34 AM PST by Mlheureux
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To: EBH

You cannot overcome the nature of man with more laws. Term limit just changes the corruption, not eliminate it.

Our founding fathers equipped us with very good alternatives already.


22 posted on 01/20/2022 7:34:47 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Tench_Coxe

You bet. He’s a “special one” that deserves much more than loss of employment, much more, repeatedly.


23 posted on 01/20/2022 7:46:45 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: EBH

Do away wiht the House of Rpreesenttives and move to a unicameral legislature composed of two senators from each state.


24 posted on 01/20/2022 7:56:42 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

You get everything backwards? If you want unicameral get rid of the Senate and keep the HOR.


25 posted on 01/20/2022 8:01:09 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: central_va

Unicameral means “one chamber”

If we’re going to have one chamber then it is better to keep the Senate. This might be worse for high population states like New York and California but better for America.


26 posted on 01/20/2022 8:04:20 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin

Better to keep the HOR and ditch the Senate.


27 posted on 01/20/2022 8:07:10 AM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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To: AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; aragorn; arthurus; bamahead; Baynative; bigfootbob; Bratch; BreezyDog; ...

There is a move in the Ohio Legislature to join the COS movement, both with Georgia’s application language and the separate balanced budget amendment movement.


28 posted on 01/20/2022 8:28:19 AM PST by Publius
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To: Publius

The first of many we need to pass.


29 posted on 01/20/2022 8:46:01 AM PST by TBP (Decent people cannot fathom the amoral cruelty of the Biden regime.)
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To: EBH

I’ve been preaching term limits for thirty or so years now.

Two terms at each level (house and senate) then out to live under the laws you helped to pass.

And I suggest adding that all political donations must be ANONYMOUS. You can’t sell influence if you don’t know who is buying. Americans should be allowed to donate any amount they wish, to any candidate or party they choose; that’s FREEDOM. But to purchase an outcome for a donation reduces it to BRIBERY and makes it a CRIME.

These changes would eliminate the career politician by removing the possibility of becoming fabulously wealthy, leaving those dedicated to public SERVICE. Public servants have long since morphed into MASTERS...let’s get rid of them.


30 posted on 01/20/2022 8:51:15 AM PST by JimRed (TERM LIMITS, NOW! Militia to the border! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: EBH
"It’s time for the states to step up."

I wonder if I could get all that on a ballcap...

Maybe "Convention of States" would be easier...

31 posted on 01/20/2022 9:41:22 AM PST by unread (Everything you ever thought was right, fair and just is completely wrong..... I think..(?))
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To: kiryandil
"The K-Street lobbyists like their bought politicians to have a long shelf life."

Well put.! :)

32 posted on 01/20/2022 9:42:31 AM PST by unread (Everything you ever thought was right, fair and just is completely wrong..... I think..(?))
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To: Ken H
"Repeal the 17th Amendment. Everything else is a diversion."

I really do believe that repealing the 17th. would solve a lot of the grief we are experiencing nowadays. But, reducing the jurisdiction of the federal government would be grand. And a balanced budget would certainly be a worthy goal....I think.

33 posted on 01/20/2022 9:56:26 AM PST by unread (Everything you ever thought was right, fair and just is completely wrong..... I think..(?))
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To: EBH; All
Thank you for referencing that article EBH. Please note that the following critique is directed at the article and not at you.

Term limits and a balanced budget are not the main problems with the post-17th Amendment ratification, alleged election-stealing, elite Democratic-pirated Congress imo.

From related threads...

More specifically, term limits and balanced budget arguments are arguably election year, political smoke-and-mirrors that ignores that corrupt Congress continually blatantly ignores its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, especially Congress's Supreme Court-clarified limited power to appropriate taxes.

In fact, the congressional records shows that Rep. John Bingham, a constitutional lawmaker, had clarified that the delegates to the Constitutional Convention had left the care of the people with the states, not the federal government.

”Simply this, that the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Constitution, is in the States and not in the federal government [emphases added]. I have sought to effect no change in that respect in the Constitution of the country.” —John Bingham, Congressional. Globe. 1866, page 1292 (see top half of third column)

Justice Louis Brandeis later reflected on Bingham's words when Brandeis introduced his "laboratories of democracy" metaphor to emphasize the 10th Amendment-protected powers of the sovereign states, ultimately depending on the kind of state social spending programs the legal majority citizen voters of a given state want.

"[...] a single courageous State may, if its citizens choose, serve as a laboratory; and try novel social and economic experiments without risk to the rest of the country." —Justice Louis Brandeis, Laboratories of Democracy.

The situation now is that state lawmakers who probably don't know the federal government's constitutionally limited powers any better than the voters who elected them probably do, regularly beg for so-called “federal” funding to supplement tight state budgets.

The problem is that state lawmakers never seem to make the connection that "federal" funds are arguably state revenues stolen from the states by corrupt Congress by means of unconstitutional federal taxes according to the Gibbons v. Ogden excerpt above.

In other words, the states would be taking care of their own infrastructure, as the founders had intended for the states to do, if the states wised up and put a stop to unconstitutional federal taxes and associated infamous, unaccountable federal spending.

The “simple” (imo) approach to peacefully putting Congress back into its Section 8-limited power “cage” is for the states to ratify a new amendment to the Constitution that does nothing more than repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments, relatively little or no discussion required imo.

Insights welcome.

34 posted on 01/20/2022 12:16:39 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: dinodino; Spok

States will send delegates/commissioners with detailed limits to their authority. They won’t send representatives. Big diff.

Now, if you don’t want to understand the difference, just keep voting. As if it matters.


35 posted on 01/20/2022 3:19:22 PM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Jacquerie

You really want California to amend the Constitution? You’re deluded if you think it will go well.


36 posted on 01/21/2022 2:30:24 AM PST by dinodino ( )
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To: dinodino

I really want to watch the frustration of California when it casts a single vote, just like Wyoming.


37 posted on 01/21/2022 4:03:56 AM PST by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: dinodino

This is wrong because it is only proposed amendments that the convention would consider. Those agreed by the Convention of States would require 38 state legislatures to agree to them in order to change add the amendment to the constitution. No 38 states, no new changes or amendments to the constitution.


38 posted on 01/21/2022 4:45:17 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign! )
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